Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/01/19
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]feeling a little relief that after looking often you find more to appreciate in the images. I'd expect that if we saw some 11x14 or 16x20 prints we may even find more to appreciate in them (and I don't mean on glossy newsprint stock with a poorly registered process dot). I certainly wouldn't refer to them as "great" portraits or superb photographs. Yet (for me), they contain some fascinating visual qualities; expressing a some what humbled (un-glorified), yet respectful human condition. We, on this list, look at a hell of a lot of photographs; how much time do we actually spend on each viewing? I find that on some days a post may look, to me, rather dull. The next day it may (or may not) resonate more. Somewhat regularly I do self portraits to test a lighting set up, an ASA setting or just to see "how I look today." Many times I feel shocked by how I look; but also fascinated by my own reality, vulnerability and slow disintegration. I rarely have the courage to publicly post these "tests"on a screen or print; even though some of them have a certain raw power. Rather than "wimpy" I believe it took (and always takes) a certain amount of courage on everyone's part (photographer, subjects, editors) to try something a little "off." The glamour assembly line could certainly have been employed; as it is every single day ad nauseum. Regards, George Lottermoser george@imagist.com http://www.imagist.com http://www.imagist.com/blog http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist Picture A Week - www.imagist.com/paw_07 On Jan 19, 2009, at 2:06 PM, Steve Barbour wrote: > > On Jan 19, 2009, at 11:26 AM, George Lottermoser wrote: > >> and with equal respect to you Steve >> nothing wimpy about >> attempting to work within those restraints > > I wanted to respond George, but before doing so I again went > through all of these photos... > > I must say that this time, after 3-4 previous looks... I appreciate > more these images... > > The subjects still decide how they want to be seen, they pose, and > that was the idea, even encouraging "bring something to include in > the photo" but I am bothered by the fact that they insist they > wanted to let the subject pose as wished, yet when Axelrod posed > with cookies, the photographers chose not to show that image, as > "it almost didn't look real" "it was too silly"... > > so they set their own editorial limits, controls on what was > acceptable/permissable...sadly a lapse, I think... > > > maybe they simply wanted us to mull over and talk about these > photos, just as we are... > > Steve > > > > > >> ; >> especially with the subject a person I neither know >> nor will have the time to get to know. >> (as any working photographer >> who's been assigned a few moments >> with an exec or CEO can attest) >> >> In many cases >> it's easier to apply >> learned, professional tactics >> to produce the flattering portrait, >> complete with more dramatic lighting, >> and corporate backgrounds >> to add (perhaps superficial) content. >> >> Regards, >> George Lottermoser >> george@imagist.com >> http://www.imagist.com >> http://www.imagist.com/blog >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist >> Picture A Week - www.imagist.com/paw_07 >> >> >> >> >> On Jan 19, 2009, at 10:07 AM, Steve Barbour wrote: >> >>> >>> On Jan 19, 2009, at 8:38 AM, George Lottermoser wrote: >>> >>>> one can only guess: >>>> 1) a catalog of Barack Obama's top advisers, aids and members of >>>> his incoming administration >>>> 2) without flattery or suggestive environments >>>> 3) each within a very limited time frame >>>> 4) and in quite a number of different locations >>>> 5) while maintaining a consistent look across the collection >>> >>> >>> >>> with respect George, to your efforts to come up with some kind of >>> an adequate explanation... >>> >>> these sound awfully wimpy to me... >>> >>> >>> Steve >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> George Lottermoser >>>> george@imagist.com >>>> http://www.imagist.com >>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog >>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist >>>> Picture A Week - www.imagist.com/paw_07 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 19, 2009, at 9:27 AM, Steve Barbour wrote: >>>> >>>>> what were they trying to accomplish? >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>> information >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information