Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/02/16

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Subject: [Leica] Re: Cheaper Leica
From: hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Mon Feb 16 22:41:13 2009
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Larry, I think your design concept is safe from any patent infringement!
OK, put down that 6th triple espresso and back away from the keyboard slowly
;-)
We have a saying over here commonly used in a friendly way... Don't give up
your day job ;-) ;-)

2009/2/17 Lawrence Zeitlin <lrzeitlin@optonline.net>

>
> On Feb 16, 2009, at 10:00 PM, Geoff wrote:
>
> The 'CL of digital' seems to have popular support on the internet forums.
>> It
>> certainly sounds like Leica are hinting in that direction. I don't see
>> what
>> you could remove from the M8 design to make it much simpler though. If
>> that
>> is so, you need a much cheaper to manufacture body with an M mount. If
>> that
>> means an EVF I think it would lose its rangefinder essence.
>>
>
>
> Not necessarily. The CL cost much less than the M series Leicas to produce.
> They sold retail for about 1/3 the price. I bought one new in 1970 for less
> than $400 USD. While I have no definitive knowledge, I suspect that the 
> bulk
> of of the cost of the M8 comes from the mechanical and optical parts. With 
> a
> digital CL using the mass marketed mini 4/3 components, it could sell for
> considerably less than the M8 yet still use an optical RF system. It all
> depends on whether Leica is making enough money from selling a small number
> of expensive M8s or wants to broaden its base by selling many more cheaper
> digital CLs. Remember that Leica killed the CL because it was selling too
> many of them and felt that it was cannibalizing sales of the M cameras.
> Perhaps Konica Minolta still has the tooling tucked away in some warehouse.
>
> Alternatively Leica, or another supplier, could retrofit existing M cameras
> for digital photography by making a 4/3 digital sensor module to replace 
> the
> inspection door in the back and incorporate digital electronics in a
> somewhat enlarged base plate. Everything else is already there, the 
> shutter,
> the range finder and the view finder. You would have to advance the "film"
> normally to cock the shutter. In addition to extending the useful life of a
> generation of film cameras, the original back door could be replaced to use
> film if desired.
>
> Leica, you can have my suggestion without a fee. I'll even let you have a
> couple of M3s to modify digitally, as long as I can get them back.
>
> Larry Z
>
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-- 
Cheers
Geoff
'Licence to Chill'

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