Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/02/24

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Subject: [Leica] With the Summicron Collaps. and TX
From: luisripoll at telefonica.net (Lluis Ripoll)
Date: Tue Feb 24 15:07:26 2009
References: <C5C909A1.4A4E0%mark@rabinergroup.com>

Hi Mark,

Don't worry, no problem at all, and you are fright that with the  
monitors we usually forget the true printed photo.

Thank you!
Lluis

El 24/02/2009, a las 8:19, Mark Rabiner escribi?:

> That's a relief because for a second there I thought people were  
> going to
> pick out one 50 over another 50 after seeing these images. I'm sure  
> that
> never happens. And would not be happening now!
> I get along great with Lluis Geoff thank you!
> I think he knows I'm not attacking him and you don't need to defend  
> him!
> I'm just saying it looks like we are supposed to be making decisions  
> about
> high end glass based on screen shots on our monitors and I don't  
> agree with
> that!
>
> Contrast and sharpness details are awfully had to compare in glass  
> in this
> digital age. You can say all you're defaults where the same for  
> everything
> but in the end they never are!
>
>
> Mark William Rabiner
>
>
>
>> From: Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew@gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:49:44 +1000
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] With the Summicron Collaps. and TX
>>
>> Mark I follow what you are saying. For sure you might like to hold  
>> big
>> prints side by side if you were shopping for a lens. But Lluis is  
>> just
>> sharing his experiences by showing street stuff as he usually does.  
>> The
>> sizes are reasonable for web viewing. You can just enjoy the  
>> pictures if you
>> like. For some shots you can certainly see contrast and sharpness
>> differences for example. Lluis likes traditional spherical designs  
>> you
>> probably know. Lluis is not Leica or Nikon or Canon and he's not  
>> trying to
>> sell you anything. By the way I spent a very enjoyable session with  
>> him a
>> year or so back looking over several hundred wet darkroom prints by  
>> Lluis
>> over perhaps twenty or thirty years of shooting. You can imagine  
>> that it was
>> most enjoyable to hold his skilled work in your hands.
>>
>> 2009/2/24 Mark Rabiner <mark@rabinergroup.com>
>>
>>> The top one I see is a 950 by 655 pixel file.
>>> If you printed it at 300 dpi that's only a 2x3 inch image!
>>> 5 by 7 and a half centimeters isn't such a heck of a lot.
>>> We're looking at or comparing what?
>>> Signatures?
>>> ???
>>> We always see this I don't know what we can get out of files which  
>>> are a
>>> small decimal point of a normal shooting sized image.
>>> We're going to buy a 1000 dollar lens over a 3000 dollar lens or  
>>> visa versa
>>> after looking at an image 950 by 655 pixels across?
>>>
>>> If those were my needs I'd be out trying to find the lowest rez  
>>> cheapest
>>> point and shoot there is.
>>> To me this level of comparisons do not relate to Leica buying.
>>> And this happens on this list all the time.
>>>
>>> The smallest file size of the cheapest digital camera money can  
>>> buy is what
>>> ten times this size?
>>>
>>> I think we need to be realistic about what can be showed and not  
>>> shown on
>>> the internet.
>>> What does Leica do? They let you download some real life sized  
>>> images
>>> before
>>> you plunk down your thousands.
>>> As does nikon. And I'm sure Canon.
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Lluis Ripoll <luisripoll@telefonica.net>
>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>>>> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 01:42:24 +0100
>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>>>> Subject: [Leica] With the Summicron Collaps. and TX
>>>>
>>>> These ones with M3, summicron Collapsible 50m, and Tri X, you can
>>>> compare the different signatures Zeiss and Leica
>>>>
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/09020102.jpg.html
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/c4bdz2
>>>>
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/09020101.jpg.html
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/bl52qr
>>>>
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/09020112.jpg.html
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/ckffyt
>>>>
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/09020110.jpg.html
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/b9c6e8
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for looking, your c & c are wellcome
>>>>
>>>> Saludos cordiales
>>>> lluis
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Cheers
>> Geoff
>> 'She looks like an angel moving too fast for its glory'
>>
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