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Subject: [Leica] Your thoughts on a Voigtl ä nder Lens: Response to Mark
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:28:41 -0400

In response to which macro for the M2;
Macro is not supposed to be in a rangefinder cameras ballgame yet we more
than make do. I love Viso but don't think its necessary to bring along on a
trip for close-ups.  And though the dual range is highlight thought of I'm
not likely to own one soon.

I had a chart from the late 90s on my fridge for the longest time of all the
Leica glass which filters they fit and what the smallest magnification they
fit. I recall my 135mm f/3.4 Apo Telyt M get in very tightly. Parallax never
bothered me all that much.
The current 90's get in fairly tightly as well.
As does a plain vanilla 50 Summicron.

If you want to shoot a be on a flower then get a Viso or carry along a Nikon
body with a 100 macro on the front of it.
When it bumps up against your Leica in your bag it wont be the first time.
Or get a Leica SL or R and 100 macro I bet those are going for good deals.


Super pricy high end German enlarging lenes costing hundreds now can be
found in most grab boxes at the camera stores with the bent filter rings and
flash cases. For a song.
Play around with those but as its an M2 you don't get TTL. Whoopee!, I'd get
an M6 for that or skip it.

Oh you'd want a bellows with your Viso that's gotten to be just part of the
deal.


Mark William Rabiner



> From: Gary Dalton <grdalton at hotmail.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:41:56 -0700
> To: LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Your thoughts on a Voigtl ? nder Lens: Response to 
> Mark
> 
> 
> You make an excellent point.
> 
> In the "29 posts" -- I hope you didn't take time to count them all -- the
> subject of equipment certainly dominates, and there isn't a word from me 
> or a
> question from others about how a certain lens or lenses might drive what I 
> am
> interested in doing. So here are my notions.
> 
> I like to shoot people, up close in their environment, with substantial
> background near and around them. I want the shot to grab enough of the
> surroundings to tell the story of who they are, where they are, what 
> artifacts
> are in their environment, and what they're doing. I would like to do a 
> better
> job of this especially in tight quarters.
> 
> I like to take photos of urban settings:  I want that building, fountain,
> plaza, park, intersection, etc. -- all of it -- not pieces of it. And, if 
> not
> a dominating feature, I want as much of that specific feature's 
> environmental
> context as possible.
> 
> I can say something similar about natural outdoor settings. Panoramas 
> interest
> me as do massive natural structures or living things. I want to shoot all 
> of
> El Capitan at sunset and include the trees, the sky, the ripples Merced 
> River
> in natural proportion in the same shot. I would like to capture the 
> desolation
> and the expanse of, say, a ghost town like Bodie, but with the artifacts
> (buildings and mills, etc.) not lost in that expanse. I want all of a Giant
> Sequoia.
> 
> Finally, and not related to the Voigtlander 21, I love macro work. 
> Sticking a
> macro lens down the mouth of a bearded iris for its brilliant colors, 
> shades,
> and shapes -- and whatever else might be inside. I'd like to take a shot 
> of a
> seed pushing out of the dirt, a bee in an almond blossom, and a paper wasp
> constructing its nest.
> 
> Is that better, Mark? With respect to macro work with an M2, which lens 
> would
> you suggest?
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:35:18 -0400
>> From: mark at rabinergroup.com
>> To: lug at leica-users.org
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Your thoughts on a Voigtl ? nder Lens
>> 
>> Wide enough for WHAT!????
>> 
>> No ones asking and your not saying.
>> On a thread of 29 posts.
>> 
>> Me I'm tired of my ball peen hammer I'm thinking of getting a framing
>> hammer.... Its all so meaningless!
>> 
>> A lens is a tool;
>> Talk PHOTOGRAPHY!
>> WHAT KIND DO YOU DO?????
>> SUBJECT MATTER???
>> URL for a gallery?
>> 
>> 
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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