Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/04/24
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Oriental Seagull, that's a great paper, smooth creamy (I like warm), feels really good in the hand. On the other hand digital white is 255, 255, 255 and that's it. It is very apparent that some people here do know how to print, you or your creative director for example use David Bailey's Book of Photography - How to Take Better Pictures (1981), as a reference manual. But I believe that for those that don't have the book and don't have a reference point; images that show exceptional atmosphere, clean whites and deep blacks should be pointed out. I think people should be encouraged to compare their work to the others and get a feel for the tonal range monochrome is capable of, rather than your rather dismissive comments below about those not having learnt to scan being worse tha High Schoolers. Perhaps you could show examples of toning some mono prints, warm, cold, neutral, blown highlights, blacks lacking depth, sickly greys, since you have examples to hand. Philip. Mark Rabiner wrote: > The whites are a function of the company which makes the paper. > The use of brighteners or the use of a creamier warmer not white colored > base is all interesting stuff for a short time but we don't get much credit > for it We BUY the paper we PICK IT OUT that's it.. On the internet we can > find out which is the most acceptable paper qualities according to the > signs > of the times and what the market will bear. > The Blacks in our prints on the other hand we can talk about day after day > week after week its a product of our printing technique. > There's not a film negative developer dilution time that is going to affect > this. Its not the film its the paper and how we print it. > With the exception of a very over exposed neg perhaps. > But even those we should be able to get a print with a very enviable black. > > CINEMATOGRAPHERS also talk about their blacks in their films and in other > cinematographers films till the cows come home just like still > photographers > do. > > Getting solid blacks and clear whites in scans is something any early high > schooler could easily do. As photography would seem to be are clear > interest > on the LUG we should be as good at Photoshop as the kids all playing with > it > during recess instead of out playing on the teeter totter > > > Mark William Rabiner > > > >> From: Philippe AMARD <philippe.amard at tele2.fr> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:55:03 +0200 >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] I am beautiful, but alone..... now whites >> >> Mark Rabiner wrote: >> >>> There is no "quality of whites". >>> >>> >>> >> Mark, >> my mother always used Bonux for the quality of its whites. >> I follow the family tradition and add a drop to the last but one bath >> when I soup film. >> But keep it a secret will you? >> Amiti?s >> Philippe >> ;-) >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information