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Subject: [Leica] IMG: swine flu slide show
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:48:41 +0530
References: <B6C9EC6F-7C5C-4B0A-A305-BA23B69FF5C2@mac.com> <42C933CD-3137-4F02-9DD0-0570977EF714@cox.net> <EB485C0E-B042-43BD-8BA2-CC3DE1EC0A86@mac.com> <79F109B8-2E25-430F-8C3E-E9806E87660E@cox.net> <3cad89990904271847l4149c5c1k1c4fdedb298188af@mail.gmail.com> <77CCC776-9B72-4C94-9086-CA858B84D96C@cox.net> <3cad89990904272205p77c44d49y25e7f57e12915fd8@mail.gmail.com> <865C70AE-9F4C-4A4B-9BEC-85FF88E170ED@cox.net>

Yet some more practical advice:

http://www.forbes.com/2009/04/27/swine-flu-mexico-sars-business-healthcare-flu-hysteria.html?partner=daily_newsletter

Cheers
Jayanand


On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Steve Barbour <kididdoc at cox.net> wrote:
>
> On Apr 27, 2009, at 10:05 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote:
>
>> Some more on swine flu:
>>
>> http://www.slate.com/id/2217019/?from=rss
>
>
>
> thanks, a fine article analyzing the strange inconsistencies in the data...
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>>
>> Cheers
>> Jayanand
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Steve Barbour <kididdoc at cox.net> 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Apr 27, 2009, at 6:47 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote:
>>>
>>>> George/Steve,
>>>> Tell me, is this another Bird Flu where all of 100 people died
>>>> worldwide in the "epidemic" and everyone wore blue masks on flights
>>>> for months out of panic, Singapore would not let people with a cold
>>>> enter the country? Its more dangerous to drive a car or cross the
>>>> road! Media hype whipping up mass hysteria! These sort of diseases are
>>>> usually totally localised and minor. I would tell the media to hype
>>>> finding a preventive cure for malaria or typhoid or cholera or similar
>>>> proven mass killers if they want to help humanity at large.
>>>
>>>
>>> it is hard to know just yet what this will be Jayanand... ?it may be over
>>> reaction based on early data from Mexico, but infections elsewhere, while
>>> occurring at a high rate, don't seem especially severe, and the mortality
>>> rate outside of ?Mexico appears far lower than in that country...
>>>
>>> curious... !
>>>
>>>
>>> yet we recall the flu epidemic starting in 1918 when 20-100 million
>>> people
>>> died during 2 years....and for various good reasons scientists have
>>> predicted a severe new flu variant for the past 5-6 years, and have been
>>> working during that time on a new vaccine as well as containment
>>> scenarios
>>> for an expected epidemic....
>>>
>>>
>>> let's not be too hasty to draw conclusions about the direction this will
>>> take...
>>>
>>> in any case, something potentially bad is going on here that demnds
>>> careful
>>> evaluation and explanation, before we can safely draw conclusions.
>>>
>>> to be sure, at this point something about the situation just doesn't
>>> smell
>>> right to me, so far it appears to be a very aggressive virus in terms of
>>> human to human rates of spread, showing apparently ?very high
>>> pathogenicity/& mortality rate in one country, with low pathogenicity
>>> elsewhere...
>>>
>>> various explanations are possible, among them, either something is wrong
>>> with the data. or the virus has already changed...
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jayanand
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:49 AM, Steve Barbour <kididdoc at cox.net> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 27, 2009, at 3:55 PM, George Lottermoser wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> hopefully the discussion will not be about a "full blown pandemic"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> it is what it is, and that is yet to be seen...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> in the meantime the blue masks are clearly the most popular...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> for that new sporty look,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> George Lottermoser
>>>>>> george at imagist.com
>>>>>> http://www.imagist.com
>>>>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2009, at 4:37 PM, Steve Barbour wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2009, at 9:08 AM, George Lottermoser wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures/rpSlideshows?articleId=USRTXECIR#a=35>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks George, ?it occurs to me we might discuss all this further
>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> some point,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> George Lottermoser
>>>>>>>> george at imagist.com
>>>>>>>> http://www.imagist.com
>>>>>>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>>>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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