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Subject: [Leica] doing it for real
From: photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 07:53:11 +0200
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Then I don't think you listen to it very much.

BBC's point of view is of course British, but certainly not that of  
the British government.

As for Radio Free Europe--some of my earliest childhood memories from  
Communist Poland involve sitting around the table with my parents in  
the evening and listening to Free Europe. It may have been American  
propaganda but I can assure you that in those pre-Internet days, it  
was the only way for people on the wrong side of the Iron Curtain to  
find out what was going on in their own countries.

Nathan

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On May 6, 2009, at 11:50 PM, Slobodan Dimitrov wrote:

> I'm in the middle of reading Human Smoke, Nicholson Baker, 2008.  
> It's a history of the interwar period, up to 1941, using news  
> articles, diary entries, etc., from a pacifist's point of view.
> It's grim reading, and an indelible commentary on journalism,  
> without "choosing sides".
> The BBC strikes me as being virtually within the same mold as Radio  
> Free America, Radio Free Europe, Radio Moscow, Vatican Radio, etc.  
> Meaning it is a "point of view" form of broadcasting, with  
> government funding.
> S.d.
>
>
> On May 6, 2009, at 10:19 AM, Philippe AMARD wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Slobodan Dimitrov wrote:
>>
>>> Outside of the former Soviet environment, British journalism is  
>>> one  of the most censored on the planet.
>>
>> BBC included?
>>
>> I must listen to Bejing radio immediately
>> Ph
>>
>>
>>> Then again, on the academic level, anyone learning journalism in  
>>> the  US, at the multiplicity of Annenberg School(s) for  
>>> Communication, is  taught self censorship. A predictable mind  
>>> provides a safe product.
>>> S.d.
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 6, 2009, at 6:23 AM, Tina Manley wrote:
>>>
>>>> At 08:41 AM 5/6/2009, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Mark said:
>>>>>
>>>>> And why would you felt like you needed to oblige them?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Because they refuse access unless you agree to their terms.   
>>>> That's  true of more and more organizations.  All of the photos  
>>>> taken on  National Trust property in England have been removed  
>>>> from Alamy  because the Trust refuses to allow photographers use  
>>>> photos taken  on their grounds.  Usually it's because the  
>>>> organization wants to  make money themselves by leasing the  
>>>> photos - like many museums  don't allow photography so they can  
>>>> sell slides and prints in the  gift shop.
>>>>
>>>>> The exact same thing...When the subjects lay out ground rules  
>>>>> for  access or want to review images before publication it's  
>>>>> time to  walk away.
>>>>> Walt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I agree but there are more and more things we're having to walk   
>>>> away from these days.  British photographers are protesting the   
>>>> National Trust stand but I doubt they'll be able to change  
>>>> anything.
>>>>
>>>> Tina
>>>>
>>>> Tina Manley
>>>> www.tinamanley.com
>>>>
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Replies: Reply from philippe.amard at tele2.fr (Philippe AMARD) ([Leica] doing it for real)
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