Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/05/09

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Subject: [Leica] Hello, to M8 users, can you tell me what your workflow is, for DNG?
From: hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 16:38:01 +1000
References: <36172e5a0905091705w10ee83e8gf5614ef0deafcd38@mail.gmail.com> <C62B9C84.4E1C6%mark@rabinergroup.com>

Mark I just provided some facts for you since you asked.
The original question was about a comparison between DNG files and jpg files
from the M8.
So we discussed DNGs rather than any other Raw format.
I provided extra facts for you specific to the Nikon that you shoot.
Just the facts, ma-am.

Now and then we talk about stuff specific to Leica here, sheesh.

2009/5/10 Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>

> I use Photoshop. And the Photoshop raw plug in.
> I could convert my NEF's to DNG's if I new why.
> At had to do it at one point when I first got my D40x and it was a pain and
> took some real time.
> Photoshop is going to continue to open NEF's.
> Photoshop is not going to stop opening the five trillion NEF's which are
> shot every three months. I don't care about Nikon software nor have a heard
> of any photographer using it. Photographers use Photoshop.
> I see from Tina just now its not strictly a file type but has a few
> properties with others might not have; I just Googled it a few hours ago
> and
> a guy did a breakdown between DNG's and NEFS and their isn't even any file
> size savings. As if that an issue with 1T hard drives going for $111.11
>
> I'm going to stay with my tissues verses blow nose metaphore.
> We are talking bout blowing noses not a brand of tissues.
> I have a good nose for what the issue is.
>
> This issue is not tissue.
> It's not.
>
>
> Mark William Rabiner
>
>
>
> > From: Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com>
> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 10:05:43 +1000
> > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Hello, to M8 users, can you tell me what your
> workflow
> > is, for DNG?
> >
> > Mark a DNG  is simply one form of Raw file. It has particular advantages.
> > You can also convert other Raw formats to the DNG format which has other
> > advantages.
> > The M8 of course produces DNG files which is why the responses referred
> to
> > DNG rather than Raw in general. However the workflow is valid for other
> > formats.
> > In the case of your Nikon NEF Raw files you may choose to convert them to
> > DNG if you wish. Adobe provide a free tool to do that. You can also
> include
> > the original NEF file within the new version if desired.
> > The Adobe software needs to make an intelligent estimate of the white
> > balance information from your NEF, since Nikon chooses to encrypt that
> > information.
> >  Nikon's Raw convertor software cannot read DNG files, only its own
> > proprietary format. Lightroom  and Adobe Camera Raw support hundreds of
> Raw
> > formats, including DNGs.
> > Raw is processed to produce a viewable file but you are essentially not
> > losing any of the original information, except that different forms of
> > compression may be applied within the camera. However the
> > optional compression of DNG files by Adobe's software (after importing
> from
> > your camera) is  lossless.
> > For you, I recommend a very fine book explaining Raw processing. Real
> world
> > Camera Raw with Adobe Photoshop CS4 by Bruce Fraser and Jeff Schewe.  It
> is
> > made of paper and can fit in the back of any of your camera bags.
>  >
>
>
>
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Cheers
Geoff
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In reply to: Message from hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson) ([Leica] Hello, to M8 users, can you tell me what your workflow is, for DNG?)
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