Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/07/31

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Subject: [Leica] S2 release dates and prices
From: datamaster at northcoastphotos.com (Gary Todoroff)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:15:17 -0700
References: <20090731155257.2488834E449@barracuda.rutabaga.org> <C6989E0C.52240%mark@rabinergroup.com>

Sorry, Mark, I meant "splash" guards as the analogy to DSLR camera 
technology that still wants to stay in the last century. Re the shape 
of camera bodies, the classic SLR configuration needed a prism in the 
middle because the body needed the sides for film and take-up spool. 
The DSLR has kept that old SLR "look" mainly, I believe, for 
marketing reasons. Managers calling the shots at Canon, Nikon et al 
have kept camera body design in the 1960's since DSLRs first appeared.

One of the main reasons I switched to Olympus was because of the 
side-swing mirror on the E-330 DSLR, which gives a very handy 
flat-top body and optical viewfinder on the top-left, much like a 
Leica M body. Two of those 330 bodies really fit easily into a 
carrying case, too - no humps to take up space.

DSLR camera designers cannot seem to get "out of the box", both 
figuratively and literally. I don't think I have every seen such a 
bunch of moribund engineers with an attitude of "we have always done 
it that way." Also, look at the SIZE of most DSLR cameras! What other 
digital designs have "advanced" with equipment that has steadily 
become LARGER instead of smaller?

The Olympus E-330 is now three years old, and I still consider it the 
high point in DSLR camera design. Nobody else has done the 
instant-shutter live view since, not even Olympus. And EVERBODY is 
still stuck on 1960's body design. The Olympus E-P1 doesn't count, 
because it only has an arms-length LCD finder. I can't even begin to 
say how disappointed I am in Leica's SLR-on-steroids-hump-backed S2, 
when they could have spent all that R&D on a combination M/R digital 
camera that could have rocked the market.

Gary Todoroff
http://northcoastphotos.com/Lympa.htm

At 10:11 AM 7/31/2009, you wrote:
> >
> >> The prism doubles the weight of the camrea in many cases. And 
> makes them far
> >> more bulky. Top heavy.
> >> Mark William Rabiner
> >
> > Exactly my sentiments about DSLR cameras that are still being builtw
> > to be retrofitted to hold film. Olympus broke the mold with the
> > flat-top, side-swinging mirror E-330, then went right back to the
> > same old mold. What a shame that DSLR designers are holding onto an
> > obsolete body design for a longer time than early automobiles kept
> > the slash guards up front for the horses!
> > Gary Todoroff
> >
>
>Olympus has gotten smart though bringing back the Pen but with the wrong
>format.
>The more Yoshihisa Maitani we get the better off we are going to be.
>
>http://www.geocities.com/maitani_fan/home.html
>
>We need an OM1 DSLR
>And Clamshell full frame or at least 1.5 crop
>
>You don't like the classic SLR configuration which the DSLR emulates?
>Not following....



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