Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/10/30
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]At 4:36 PM -0700 10/30/09, Frank Filippone wrote: >Hey, if you don't speak your mind, the status quo continues.... and God >knows, our beloved M8 cameras will be upgradeable forever......Right! > >Daniels has the company line to speak and repeat. He does so well. Yes, >the M8/M9 are .68 VF cameras. Does that make it a) right, b) customer >driven, c) the only choice Leica had d) my or your choice? I don't think >there is history that says.. they could have, customers had no say, not my >choice or preference. YMMV. > >They did not do a higher mag VF for some reason.. what that real reason is, >is Leica's secret..... and they ain;t telling us. > >What I get upset at is the incessant statement that it can not be done. Or >that there is no one that wants a higher mag VF.,... I do. I liked my M3 >finder ... .91 and all that. Sure, it was useless if you had a 35mm lens on >( without eyes) but it was a wonderful shoot with a 50......Both eyes >open..... remember what is was like to not get a headache if you were >following the action with your M3, with both eyes..... so that you could see >the action come into your frame? > No. no. no. no. no. no. and no. Well, maybe for you. A .55, so I can see the 28 frames clearly with glasses, and a .42, so I can see the 21 frames clearly with glasses. I like the current M8/9 for 35's and above, but it's a bit too tight for the 35 and almost right for the 50. Maybe a 0.8. But right now, if I could have one body that showed me 21mm framelines, visible with glasses and another body that had the current framelines I'd be delighted. >Sure it can be done. They already did it... the .85 and .58 M6TTL cameras >are examples. Maybe you don't like the choices, maybe like me, the M6 28 >finder is not visible with glasses in a .72 body ( not easily, at least), >maybe they did it for time to market, stubborn Germanic marketing theories, >or otherwise. > >But don't blindly say it can't be done or that they will not do it..... >Market demand focuses efforts on the "impossible" and or stubbornly >refused.....and the LUG is one way to getting the word to the uppers at >Leica that there is a marketing need that needs addressing..... > >A higher Mag Digi-M would pump demand for the longer lenses, like the135 APO >Telyt, make focusing easier and more accurate for the Nocti and Summilux 50 >and 75, and Summicron 75, and 90 lenses, all valid reasons ( the main >reason for the .85 M6) for a higher VF mag. > >If market demand created a White M8, then market demand can create a higher >mag M8., M9, or M10. > >Whatever happens, never lose sight of the power of the consumer to get >products they want, onto the shelves.... > >Speaking of which.. the M9.... No IR filter required, no smaller sensor.. >all impossible, or so we were told..... > >Nonsense. Marketing nonsense. > >Want better low light response than an M8 or M9? Complain, incessantly. > >It will come... So will my higher mag VF..... > >Frank Filippone >red735i at earthlink.net > > >Of course, there has also been "the final word" from Hans Peter Cohn (no >digital M) and Steven K. Lee (upgradeable digital M) on many issues. So if >you don't like what you hear on some issue now, wait for the next CEO. > >Dante > > >Frank its been hashed over a lot elsewhere and the final word is from Stefan >Daniel. > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Leica Users Group. >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- * Henning J. Wulff /|\ Wulff Photography & Design /###\ mailto:henningw at archiphoto.com |[ ]| http://www.archiphoto.com