Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/12/19
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]On Dec 19, 2009, at 2:46 AM, Frank Dernie wrote: > My WATE works fine on the M9. I always assume a lens with an exit pupil > extremely close to the sensor will be too extreme to be compensated, so > the 15mm CV almost certainly won't work, though I took a few shots with my > 12mm and it seems not bad, I preferred uncorrected. Depending on the > subject the shortcomings may not be noticed at all. It was pretty obvious > that the Zeiss 21mm f4.5 would be unsuitable for digital I'm sorry Frank, I don't follow... why is that and does it apply to the Leica 21/2.8 Elmarit ASPH on the M9....? Does that apply to use with the appropriate external viewfinder? thanks, Steve > , thank goodness they have eventually said so, I think it is pretty unfair > for Zeiss and CV to sell customers lenses suitable for film not digital > and not make it clear on the packaging. > Frank > > On 19 Dec, 2009, at 03:50, Geoff Hopkinson wrote: > >> OK then Dante. That would be a problem with those Cosina Voigtlander >> lenses >> then, not Leica ;-) No worries. >> I'd also seen a comment from PopFlash that Zeiss are not recommending >> their >> ZM 4.5 21 on the M9 (but all other ZM lenses OK). I understand that the >> latest free Cornerfix works well with that one (as it does with the >> asymmetric overcorrection that has been reported with some samples of the >> Elmar 18. I read that Leica engineers have seen the testing and samples >> reported on that. Perhaps it will be addressed in the next firmware >> release. >> >> I sold my ZM 18 (and that 21) a while back so I can't comment from >> experience on those. I'm happy with 24 as my widest now on the M9 (which >> is >> why I had the 18 for my M8). >> >> >> 2009/12/19 Dante Stella <dstella1 at ameritech.net> >> >>> The 12mm and 15mm lenses are the ones causing consternation. >>> >>> Dante >>> >>> On Dec 18, 2009, at 5:42 PM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote: >>> >>>> Mine works fine including with my 24 and 28 wide open. The biggest >>> problem >>>> that people are reporting is simply that there aren't enough to go >>>> around >>>> for all of the orders so far. >>>> On the cover glass problem, there are six reports currently (from the >>>> thousands of cameras delivered thus far), which is six too many of >>> course. >>>> Too early for the cause or causes to be determined. One camera was >>> replaced >>>> on the spot by the dealer (lucky customer that the dealer had another) >>> and >>>> one that was returned to Solms was repaired in 2 days. I hope the other >>>> 4 >>>> customers can soon report similar rapid resolutions. >>>> >>>> 2009/12/19 Dante Stella <dstella1 at ameritech.net> >>>> >>>>> Bear in mind that replacing the sensor glass on an M8 requires a >>>>> board-level replacement ($1,800) - so if this situation occurs with the >>> M9, >>>>> and you don't catch it in-warranty, you could be in for a world of >>>>> hurt. >>> I >>>>> don't think Leica changed any of its procurement practices. I suspect >>> that >>>>> it simply lacks the clean room necessary to replace the glass to Leica >>>>> cleanliness standards and can pass the massive cost of what should be a >>> $300 >>>>> repair to the end user. >>>>> >>>>> Oh yeah... M9, perfect the day it was released, no teething problems, >>>>> investment for the ages, etc. So we have red shifting, complaints >>>>> about >>>>> wide-angle lenses, complaints about incomplete IR blocking, and now >>> broken >>>>> cover glasses. Every manufacturer of everything has problems early in >>> the >>>>> production run. It's unrealistic to expect that a digital camera >>>>> pushed >>> out >>>>> the door in 18 months would be any different. >>>>> >>>>> And as my father said, "every car looks like a classic the year it >>>>> comes >>>>> out." >>>>> >>>>> Dante >>>>> >>>>> ____________ >>>>> Dante Stella >>>>> http://www.dantestella.com >>>>> >>>>> NO ARCHIVE >>>>> >>> -- >>> Cheers >>> Geoff >>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information