Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/01/19
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Personally, I'm not going to fly to or through
the US anymore unless unavoidable. If I do have
to go anywhere in the US, I'll drive to Seattle
and fly from there, but generally for non-work
related trips I'll avoid the US.
There have been exceptions, of course, but
overall the US security/border service people
have been the rudest, most inconsiderate and
generally unpleasant of any border services I've
experienced in the last 10 years. They certainly
give an extremely unpleasant (and fortunately
incaccurate) first impression of the US.
The truly sad part of this is that the actual
security achieved is minimal, but the bad
impression made on all travelers is immense.
>As coincidence would have it, this landed up in my mailbox today:
>
>http://www.economist.com/blogs/gulliver/2010/01/americas_snarling_doormen?Fsrc=glvrnwl
>
>The full column:
>
>http://www.economist.com/world/unitedstates/displaystory.cfm?story_id=15270716
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>Cheers
>Jayanand
>
>On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Frank Dernie
><Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com> wrote:
>> I have some very good friends, and two cousins
>>in the US, I have visited often and we are
>>going to DC in April to celebrate my 60th
>>birthday by visiting friends and family. I hope
>>everything will be plain sailing. These
>>security guys are doing a job not everybody
>>wants and they are probably neither well paid
>>nor well educated. There is a lot of ignorance.
>>I must say, if I had not got the tickets
>>already I would reconsider the trip.
>> I would say that of all the countries I have
>>visited the US officials are the least
>>knowledgeable and most insular. There is a
>>clear impression that they think you are being
>>granted a great privilege being allowed access
>>to their country. Probably extreme nationalism
>>taught in school :-)
>> Frank
>>
>> On 19 Jan, 2010, at 02:58, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote:
>>
>>> I have stopped going to the USA - my last trip was in 2002, and
>>> barring emergencies, or traveling to Galapagos which I plan to do
>>> sometime, that will be my last. Could not stand the paranoid and
>>> intrusive visa and security authorities, and the shoddy and demeaning
>>> treatment meted out to my wife and myself. No reason we have to put up
>>> with that. You cannot change the system, you can only vote with your
>>> feet.
>>> Cheers
>>> Jayanand
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:26 AM, Geoff
>>>Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hmm, I think that all of our business and leisure travel dollars will
>>>> be
>>>> redirected to Europe and Asia over USA and Canada for the foreseeable
>>>> future. We see some of the restrictions implemented as security to be
>>>> arbitrary, overly intrusive, unpleasant and unreasonable while not
>>>> necessarily being effective. When was the last time an Aussie carried
>>>> anything more dangerous than Vegemite into LAX?
>>>> Just my apply for permission in advance, three hours prior to departure
>>>> queued, double security procedured, carry on xrayed and pulled apart,
>>>> suitcases unlocked to save the thieves some inconvenience, liquid
>>>> restricted, questioned, through clothing body scanned, metal detected,
>>>> patted down, jet lagged two cents worth.
>>>>
>>>> Geoff
>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2010/1/19 philippe.amard <philippe.amard at sfr.fr>
>>>>
>>>>> Superb photos (with the latest gear).
>>>>>
>>>>> And it is now settled, I'll be flying SNCF this year again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the link Steve
>>>>> Amiti?s
>>>>> Philippe
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 18 janv. 10 ? 21:19, Steve Barbour a ?crit :
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://luminous-landscape.com/essays/flying-jan-10.shtml
>>>>>>
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