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Subject: [Leica] Macro
From: jhnichols at lighttube.net (Jim Nichols)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:05:27 -0500
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George,

I use the 60mm f/2.8 Macro routinely on my Oly E-1, and also on the E-510, 
and have never seen that problem.
Guess I'm just lucky.

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George Lottermoser" <imagist3 at mac.com>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Macro


> the R8/DMR is quite wonderful for macro
> with 100 2.8 apo macro, 60 2.8 macro
> with or without R bellows.
>
> Unfortunately I found a digital glitch
> when using the 60 (in normal - non macro - focusing ranges)
> something occurs as it interacts with the sensor
> to provide a magenta hot spot in the center of the frame
> if light sources are in the frame
> or even at the edges of the frame.
>
> I've tried to overcome it with shades, baffles
> and all manner of black card magic.
> Yet it persists.
>
> Regards,
> George Lottermoser
> george at imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com/blog
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 15, 2010, at 10:49 PM, grduprey at mchsi.com wrote:
>
>> I use my R8DMR for macro.  I have the 60 Macro Elmarit R.  Works nice, 
>> but would like to have the 100/2.8 R.  I also have the bellows R for real 
>> serious close up pics.
>>
>> Gene
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Henning Wulff" <henningw at archiphoto.com>
>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 4:10:56 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Macro
>>
>> George, I've found the 5DII to be a vast
>> improvement over the 5D in these sort of
>> situations. I don't have an Ultima but do have
>> the 17 and 24 Canon TSE lenses. If you compose
>> and focus only on the image coming to you by way
>> of the mirror you really con't use the tilt
>> function on these lenses. On the other hand, in
>> magnified Live View mode accurate tilts are a
>> piece of cake. I've done a lot of table top stuff
>> with LF, and I wish I had had something like
>> this. It truly is a revelation, and no dark cloth
>> and loupes required while hot lights are burning
>> into your ears.
>>
>> Live View on this camera (and the m4/3 cameras
>> I'm familiar with) is accurate enough to
>> realistically and correctly measure and judge the
>> effects of focus shift in various lenses, let
>> alone accurately set up tilts or focus macro
>> objects. The fact that the screen is as bright at
>> f/16 as at f/2.8 is a huge help.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 3:29 PM -0500 7/15/10, George Lottermoser wrote:
>>> I agree totally Mark.
>>>
>>> I continue to NOT understand
>>> the quest for easier, less, smaller, cheaper, less, etc ?
>>>
>>> Yes iPhones et al are fun and
>>> in the hands of skilled visionaries,
>>> can produce art.
>>>
>>> I just did a series of macro images
>>> using the 5D on the Ultima with an 80 Rodenstock Apo enlarging lens
>>> with the intention of using shifts and tilts.
>>> The viewing screens (both the original and the
>>> brightscreen) just suck (for this kind of work).
>>> So I replaced the 5D with the R8/DMR
>>> and immediately found my self in big, huge,
>>> heavy, difficult, tilt/shift macro heaven;
>>> achieving exactly what I envisioned in my mind.
>>>
>>> The only body that could be better (given my lenses and other kit)
>>> would be an M9/90macro/Viso because of the additional real estate;
>>> or better yet a 39CFV, Leaf Aptus II-7 to 10, or
>>> PhaseOne 25+, 45+ or 65+, back.
>>> With the M9 mega-tool - the question is not
>>> "what what other camera can I get to make macro
>>> easier?"
>>> The question is "What can I get to do macro with this incredible M9 
>>> tool?"
>>>
>>> If all I had was an M9 and wanted to do macro
>>> I'd be all over the 90 macro and viso with bellows and all sorts of 
>>> lenses.
>>> (but going from M9 to 1.5, 4/3 or smaller? What is the point?
>>> unless all we're talking about is "oh look
>>> there's a neat bug to show on the web" type of
>>> approach)
>>>
>>> (The 5D remains a fun and functional tool with Canon lenses)
>>>
>>> and of course YMMV
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> George Lottermoser
>>
>> -- 
>>
>>    *            Henning J. Wulff
>>   /|\      Wulff Photography & Design
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>>
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