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Subject: [Leica] What are the rumours around Leica and Photokina? WAS : Leica annual report
From: imagist3 at mac.com (George Lottermoser)
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2010 22:16:13 -0500
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Geoff - I hear you and your boots on the ground reporting from the mouths of 
those in control.
Loud and clear.
I don't "expect" an R10 - nor even "hope" for one - given what you and 
others have reported
over the last years.

Yet - conditions do change.

Do you (or anyone else) know how many S2 bodies have been made and/or sold?

Has the number yet exceeded the number of DMRs manufactured?
We may very well see the S2 system fail in the market place.
or
We may see it succeed and stimulate competition in its class.

Regards,
George Lottermoser 
george at imagist.com
http://www.imagist.com
http://www.imagist.com/blog
http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist





On Aug 4, 2010, at 4:49 PM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:

> But George The S2 is already there to compete against those options. You 
> can
> see that the lenses are only slowly trickling to the market.
> On those (13 month old) Euro prices the R10 projected retail for a body
> would have been USD7900 to USD9200 (just as direct currency conversion
> today).
> Then of course it needs to have a new AF lens range. The dedicated R lens
> owners very likely would buy one even so but you guys are a smaller sub-set
> of the (too small) possible market as Stefan has said.
> But never mind, I only just report what Leica Camera has said. I was 15 ft
> from Herr Daniel when he said it to probably a couple of hundred Leica
> enthusiasts and I saw the jaws drop ;-)
> Courtesy of Andreas who runs the L Camera Forum,  here again is the 
> official
> translation and a link to the original German as well.
> <
> http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/customer-forum/89591-summary-q-session-stefan-daniel-during.html
>> 
> 
> Let's hope then for all of the R folks that they have changed their mind 
> and
> the numbers have changed too.  They've made some more money since then ;-)
> Cheers
> Geoff
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> 
> 
> On 5 August 2010 01:33, George Lottermoser <imagist3 at mac.com> wrote:
> 
>> And if they would now present
>> in the wake of the M9 success
>> and the high end S2 option
>> a $6,000 24x36 DSLR
>> with the new, polished "FINE" Leica brand;
>> it would certainly "have a reasonable chance."
>> 
>> I'm looking at $5 - $14K options
>> from PhaseOne, Hasselblad, Leaf
>> every day.
>> 
>> I have to believe others are as well.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> George Lottermoser
>> george at imagist.com
>> http://www.imagist.com
>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 3, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
>> 
>>> In  his R10 cancellation announcement, Stefan Daniel told us that it
>> would
>>> have had to sell for 6000 to 7000 EURO.
>>> For comparison an M9 list in Europe is 5495 EURO
>>> Cheers
>>> Geoff
>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 4 August 2010 06:31, George Lottermoser <imagist3 at mac.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> yep - that's all we're look'n' for
>>>> keep it simple
>>>> 
>>>> ;~)
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> George Lottermoser
>>>> george at imagist.com
>>>> http://www.imagist.com
>>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 3, 2010, at 3:23 PM, grduprey at mchsi.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> as long as it was full frame and had a bright view finder.
>>>> 
>>>> 
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