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Subject: [Leica] Searching -- Critiquing!
From: lluisripollquerol at gmail.com (Lluis Ripoll Querol)
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 15:09:33 +0200
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Absolutely agree Tina, Ted's words are really "Master Classes"

Saludos
Lluis

El 29/08/2010, a las 15:05, Tina Manley escribi?:

> LUG -
>
> Isn't Ted amazing?  He does the same thorough critic with each of the
> hundreds of photos in the Leica seminars.  I am in awe and have no  
> idea how
> he does it.  I know whether I like a photo or not immediately, but I  
> have no
> idea why.  Ted does and gives helpful comments on how to improve.   
> He's the
> best photography teacher I know!!!
>
> Tina
>
> On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 12:02 AM, <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> Gene did say:
>>
>>> This is what I wanted and as long as I get some pointers on how to  
>>> improve
>>>> my photos, I will never take it personally, as I do want to  
>>>> learn.  I
>>>> keep
>>>> waiting for a comment from Dr. Ted, but so far, I guess he either  
>>>> likes
>>>> my
>>>> stuff or has not bothered to look.  Or, I'm too terrible for him to
>>>> narrow
>>>> it down.  ;-)  Either way it is great to have him back.<,
>>>>
>>>
>> Thank you Gene for the welcome back.
>>
>> However I did not pass your picture posting on purpose as I can  
>> only be
>> here
>> so much time each day, then I'm ordered to leave! :-) :-( Both good  
>> and
>> bad.
>> However mon ami I have and am looking as I comment! :-)
>>
>> WINTER BARN #2:
>> No question the best by far! "SHOOTING FROM THE SHADOW SIDE!"  
>> Because of
>> the trees and the tree shadow mid foreground! Quite obvious which  
>> is the
>> better merely by clicking back and
>> forth for comparison.
>>
>> Number 2 without question is "ART" and could very easily be framed  
>> and hung
>> in a family room or in the home of an urban resident.
>>
>> Julia's Eyes:
>> I like this but would prefer it even more so if we could see a  
>> smidgen more
>> of her eyes. I suppose that comes from when I photograph people I  
>> always
>> try
>> not to cut through the eyes.
>>
>> If the subject is wearing eye glasses, no part of the frames should  
>> ever
>> cut
>> through the eye or eyes! Still an interesting photo, however next  
>> time try
>> for a clean eye line. It does make a major difference because we  
>> humans
>> learn so much about others from the subject's eyes. We know when  
>> they are
>> lying, ill, emotional and it goes on!
>>
>> Tetons:
>> Interesting, however the really black foreground or lower portion  
>> of the
>> frame I find disturbing. I think more so because I can't tell what it
>> is and it doesn't seem to add anything? I have just looked again  
>> and if
>> anything I think maybe a tad brighter might help as I think it's  
>> forest?
>> maybe a lake? tucked in there giving some reflection in the mid  
>> third left
>> in the frame? It doesn't fall into one of your better pictures,  
>> probably
>> more into a "snap shot category from the car as you were driving  
>> along
>> the highway and the scenery looked kind of cool. You stopped and  
>> went...
>> "CLICK!" It looked better to the eye than in a photograph.
>> Trust me it happens to all of us!
>>
>> Thistle:
>> Not much to say here other than when you have "spines" or pointy  
>> things
>> sticking out they shouldn't be cut off by the edge frame as you've  
>> done
>> here. They should come from the seed pod and end clean and clear  
>> from the
>> edge of the frame. How much? It doesn't matter as long as it helps  
>> create
>> an
>> interesting composition. If you chop them off it spoils the  
>> composition.
>>
>> Wild Flower:
>> OK this works as a simple clean composition of a wild flower, dark  
>> back
>> ground helps make it stand out stronger and sharper. If one is into  
>> hanging
>> wild flower photos in the family room it could fall into that  
>> category. It
>> falls into the "nice picture" range and not likely anyone is going  
>> to be
>> jumping off their chairs over it!
>>
>> Yellowstone Swan:
>> Even though the swan is clean and white and catches the eye and it  
>> should
>> be
>> the smack you in the eye main point of focus..... IT ISN'T! !  That  
>> great
>> big root system on the left grabs your attention and holds your  
>> eyes there,
>> rather than staying with the  "Yellowstone Swan!" That is after all  
>> the
>> title of the photograph. Right?
>>
>> How to correct this if the swan is considered the main point of  
>> focus?
>>
>> That's a toughie without being there, but I think probably wait the  
>> few
>> minutes until the swan is coming out from behind the root system  
>> and clean
>> of the roots all together. Maybe just make it into a reflection in  
>> the
>> water
>> and the real bird with green weeds filling the background! Or  
>> something of
>> that nature unless some other smaller size roots are about and can be
>> balanced as a secondary part of the photograph.
>>
>> OR? Shoot the swan sooner before it got so close to the roots? In  
>> other
>> words with a bigger gap between bird and roots. Because right now  
>> it almost
>> looks like the swan will crash into the roots? maybe?
>>
>> OK I hope this helps as I'm ordered out of here. good night. Talk  
>> later.
>> cheers,
>> Dr. ted
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
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