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Subject: [Leica] Filter System for "M" Landscape Photography
From: rgacpa at yahoo.com (Bob Adler)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 08:14:15 -0700 (PDT)

I just use my hat...
Nice menagerie.... 

Bob Adler
http://www.rgaphoto.com

On Sep 5, 2010, at 12:27 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:

As far as the flare situation on a square filter system goes if they fit in
my Hasselblad bellows it would be too tempting to use them. But in many
cases it seems to my they have you buying the Cokin shade to put in front of
the Cokin or whatever holder and they never look too good to me. Or at least
I like my other shades a lot better.  Come to think of I do have a square
holder for my modern 4x5 a Cambo Calumet 45NX 4x5 and my only lens is a 210
Fujinon 5.6. Which  I used for these.
http://rabinergroup.com/Catagorypages/Halloween2001.html

--------------------
Mark William Rabiner
Photography
mark at rabinergroup.com


From: Bob Adler <rgacpa at yahoo.com>
Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 16:54:58 -0700 (PDT)
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: Re: [Leica] Filter System for "M" Landscape Photography

I'd love to have glass too. My polarizing and a couple of ND filters are
glass. 
Rest are resin and, you're right, they've got small scratches.
But weight is a pretty big deal. The pack is heavy enough as it is! And the
scratches don't seem to impact quality IMO. That close to the lens, unless
there's a flare situation, it's a non-issue.
But glass and a llama to carry it all would be ideal!!
Bob Adler
Palo Alto, CA
http://www.rgaphoto.com




________________________________
From: Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Sat, September 4, 2010 3:55:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Filter System for "M" Landscape Photography

I love the idea of a square filter system I used to have an old one I'd use
with my early view cameras. Real old. In a wood box they came in. a mired
set. From Harrison and Harrison I think. Fron Rochester I think.
But glass. Not coated. Not thin.
The use of resin filters does not feel right to me. I'd spend the extra
bucks on the glass versions I believe are also available. As I scratch
things when look at them funny. And am just a glass guy. I even had glass
eyeglasses for a while (Zeiss) and they were a lot heavier than the
standard.

--------------------
Mark William Rabiner
Photography
mark at rabinergroup.com


From: Bob Adler <rgacpa at yahoo.com>
Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 08:19:40 -0700 (PDT)
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: [Leica] Filter System for "M" Landscape Photography

Moving on from the UV/IR filter battle, I've just finished "constructing"
an arrangement for my M that allows me to use the Lee filters that I use for
my 
other  camera systems. I now can use one set of filters for my Canon, Hassy
and 
4x5. 

Lee is now selling (though I'm not sure they're actually producing any as no
one 
has them) it's RF filter system, which costs about $800 for a starter kit
(one
46mm mount, one polarizing filter, filter holder (holds about 2 filters) and
a
couple of graduated neutral density (ND) filters. That was a bit rich for me
added with the fact that I would've had to buy a whole new set of filters
because of the odd size of the holder (not 4x6 as all my other Lee filters
are). 

My solution was to buy 49mm and 55mm Cokin "Z Pro" filter holders; one
fitting
a 
55mm lens (my 21mm M lens) and one fitting a 49mm lens (my 135). These are
the
only two "Z Pro" holders that fit my M lens. For the other sizes I needed,
46mm 
for my 50 and 39mm for my 35, I bought a regular Cokin system holder for
each.
They make them in those two sizes. I glued those on the other side of the
49mm
holder and, since they would have blocked the hole in my 55mm holder, bought
another 49mm holder to glue the other one to. Both obviously glued together
on
their non-thread sides.

At any rate, I can now use all my Lee filters with my M. Total cost was about
$50. Though you can't really see what your doing through the viewfinder, you
can 
guess pretty well and adjust when you view on the LCD screen if you have a
digital M. I have used a similar technique in the past (just hand holding a
ND
or grad ND filter in front of the lens and guessing) with film and it's
worked
out well, especially the ND filters which don't require any particular
placement.

Just thought I'd pass this on for anyone daring to put an M on a tripod to
take 
landscapes :-)

Best,
Bob

Bob Adler
Palo Alto, CA
http://www.rgaphoto.com





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