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Subject: [Leica] The world's SMALLEST 35mm lens ever for M... Not!
From: Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com (Frank Dernie)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:52:42 +0100
References: <C8C09938.3E77%mark@rabinergroup.com> <2CDEB595-D764-47A2-A948-B8AA28EA7CE8@btinternet.com> <AANLkTi=atsFj2m+iUhWrbGAKh3u24KtsRPiB5uJwhogK@mail.gmail.com>

The first time I heard it was in a restaurant where the waiter said I'll be 
back momentarily. It was busy and I thought he was warning us to get our 
choice sorted since he would not be with us very long to take the order ;-)
cheers,
FD

On 23 Sep, 2010, at 14:39, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote:

> Frank,
> Momentarily confused me no end when I first heard it, having been
> brought up to believe it meant "for a moment" and not "in a moment".
> We (Neela & I) actually still laugh out loud when we hear the US
> usage, it sounds so strange to our ears!
> 
> We call the sweet pancake/crepe "poli" and the savory ones "dosa" or
> "dosai". Poli is made out of refined flour and usually stuffed with
> either a mixture of coconut and jaggery, or with a sweet concoction
> made from chickpea flour. Dosai is made crisp with a fermented batter
> of rice and lentils and are usually eaten plain or stuffed with a mild
> potato curry.
> 
> Cheers
> Jayanand
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Frank Dernie
> <Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com> wrote:
>> Much more complicated than that!
>> Here in England "pancakes" are thin, usually served flat sprinkled with 
>> lemon and sugar. Crepes are the similar but thinner French version. In 
>> France there are lots of Creperies and they are served in a multitude of 
>> ways, with both savoury and sweet fillings, pretty well always folded 
>> over so the filling is "internal". Nobody in England would call a pancake 
>> a crepe unless they were being pretentious.
>> There is no real equivalent in England of what Americans call pancakes, 
>> though those who will have travelled to the USA may well have tried and 
>> enjoyed them, as I have, hence know what an American is talking about if 
>> he says "pancake".
>> The nearest equivalent to American-style pancakes in the UK would be 
>> Scotch pancakes, or drop scones. Being married to a Scot I am -very- 
>> familiar with them, and make them myself! They are much smaller than the 
>> American-style pancakes I have come across, 3" to 4" diameter, but 
>> similar in thickness and texture to their american cousin. Scotch 
>> pancakes are normally served buttered with Golden Syrup or jam.
>> Few, if any, people in England would refer to Scotch pancakes as simply 
>> pancakes, since in England a pancake is much larger in diameter and much 
>> thinner.
>> 
>> 
>> Another confusing difference between English and American!
>> 
>> FD
>> 
>> PS my favourite difference in English and American meaning is in the word 
>> momentarily, plenty of potential for amusing confusion!
>> 
>> 
>> On 23 Sep, 2010, at 10:42, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>> 
>>> There are pancakes and there are thin pancakes.
>>> The thin pancakes are crapes and the list mentioned.
>>> 
>>> A typical photo lens called a pancake is about 3/4's of an inch thick.
>>> http://www.jessops.com/ce-images/PRODUCT/PRODUCT_ENLARGED/ASAMSLE205155090.j
>>> pg
>>> Or
>>> http://tinyurl.com/2b65he7
>>> 
>>> This pancake we just saw seemed to thin to even grab. 1/4 inch. Must have
>>> used more eggs and milk and less flour.
>>> hence me calling them cr?pes. Or those other things. Which comes from a 
>>> list
>>> of synonyms for crepes. Which are thin pancakes.
>>> 
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cr?pe
>>> " A cr?pe (English pronunciation: /?kre?p/, French: [k??p]; Breton:
>>> krampouezhenn) is a type of very thin pancake, usually made from wheat
>>> flour."
>>> 
>>> 
>>> " An early example is the (Zeiss) Tessar of 1902. The design has seen a
>>> resurgence due to the growth of the mirrorless interchangeable lens 
>>> digital
>>> camera (so-called EVIL camera) market, notably the Micro Four Thirds 
>>> system.
>>> 
>>> In the 1960s and 1970s the Nikon GN (Guide number) lens was a notable
>>> example, while in the 1970s and 1980s pancake lenses were used in compact
>>> single lens reflex (SLR) cameras.[1]"
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancake_lens
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --------------------
>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>> Photography
>>> mark at rabinergroup.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> From: Peter Cheyne <geordiepete211 at yahoo.co.uk>
>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:13:24 +0900
>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Subject: [Leica]  The world's SMALLEST 35mm lens ever for M... Not!
>>>> 
>>>> Mark,
>>>> 
>>>> In English English, we call those thin fried cakes made from batter
>>>> 'pancakes' . You can have fun trying to flip them in one swift flick
>>>> of the wrist.   In Japanese English they call the thicker, perhaps US,
>>>> variety 'hot-cakes'.
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe these tiny thin pancake lenses should be selling like 'hot cakes'.
>>>> 
>>>> All the best,
>>>> 
>>>> Peter Cheyne
>>>> 
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