Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/10/05

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Subject: [Leica] Another M9 question
From: kcarney1 at cox.net (Ken Carney)
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2010 20:13:45 -0500
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  I have been interested in learning how to use flash, even bought a 
couple of books  - I've seen some very interesting things done with 
minimal studio lighting (I don't know how minimal but I remember Kyle 
Cassidy's book on gun owners in America).  So I bought a Canon 580EX 
flash and diffusers for my Canon DLSR's - everything is automatic so no 
technical interruptions.  So far, it doesn't work.  I go to manual, 
adjust the flash power and check the histogram.  I use it once a year 
for a few portraits at my church, robbing a pro of some paltry income.  
It wouldn't work for 99% of the things I do, and that's with a camera 
where I can dial up 6400 with no issues.

Ken

On 10/5/2010 4:58 PM, tedgrant at shaw.ca wrote:
> Tom Schofield offered:
> Subject: [Leica] Another M9 question
>
>
>> I found, much to my chagrin, that there is no ttl flash with an m9 
>> and sf20 or Metz 54mz + sca3502.  Metz shows no new adapter for m9/s2 
>> giving ttl control.  An ebay seller is advertising a Metz 54mz + 
>> sca3702 (Pentax) adapter for m9 & s2.  I asked him, and he says it 
>> works ttl with those cameras.
>>
>> Anyone hear of this before?  I'd much rather spend $100 on an adapter 
>> than $800 on an sf 58! (and, yes, I know that if I can spend $7 k on 
>> the camera, I should be able to spend another $800 for the flash, 
>> plus $200/ lens x 6 for coding, etc.)
>
> No no no at all!
> Look out Tom here I come! ;-)
>
> Put the word FLASH  out of your mind completely! And just go shoot 
> everything and anything motivating your photographer eyes!
>
> Save yer money and forget a flash of any kind and use the money for a 
> very fine bottle of single malt scotch! :-) Make you feel much better 
> than watching a multi dollar flash destroy the picture moment .... AS 
> YOU SEE IT! Not when a flash goes off and immediately destroys what's 
> motivating you in the first place. The NATURAL LIGHT ON THE SUBJECT!
>
> You are using one of the world's classic cameras for available light 
> in this fashion ... "If you can see it, (your subject} You can shoot 
> it! :-) If it looks cool and your gut is telling you... "SHOOT IT, 
> SHOOT IT!" Do it! You don't need a damn useless light/image destroying 
> flash!
>
> A flash is a completely out moded fashion of destroying the light on 
> your subject that is motivating you in seeing the subject to shoot it! 
> The flash will only do one thing consistently.... "destroy the 
> existing light on the subject motivating you in the first place!"
>
> And make your photos just like every other happy snapping snapshot 
> without mood, gut feeling and a beautiful image.
>
> So there you go me old son... FORGET THE FLASH! :-)
>
> you're welcome, glad I could be of assistance! ;-) ;-)
> cheers,
>
> Dr. ted  ;-)
>
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