Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/10/08
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Me too. When I walked across the Brooklyn Bridge in the Spring, I saw at least a half dozen G-1s and GF-1s in use. The Panasonic exhibit at Photokina was absolutely mobbed, too, and the exhibit seemed to be mostly about micro-4/3rds: still, HD video and 3D video. Regards, Dick On Oct 08, 2010, at 8:41 PM, slobodan Dimitrov wrote: > I'm surprised in the amount of 4/3 cameras that I see in the hands of the > average consumer. > S.d. > > On Oct 8, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Richard Taylor wrote: > >> I was also surprised at now many people were sporting Nikons and Canons, >> sometimes in addition to Leicas, sometimes not. There were quite a few >> micro-4/3rds cameras, too. >> >> What ever was in use, there were lots of pictures taken this year. >> >> Regards, >> >> Dick >> >> >> >> On Oct 07, 2010, at 1:57 AM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: >> >>> I participated in an LHSA event in Solms/Wetzlar back in 1998 or 99 or >>> 2000 and was struck by (1) the number of Leicas hanging from people's >>> necks and shoulders, (2) the low frequency of same Leicas being lifted >>> to the eye in order to take a picture. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Nathan >>> >>> Nathan Wajsman >>> Alicante, Spain >>> http://www.frozenlight.eu >>> http://www.greatpix.eu >>> http://www.nathanfoto.com >>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog >>> >>> YNWA >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 7, 2010, at 12:34 AM, Richard Taylor wrote: >>> >>>> Yeah, well, at 70 I was just a bit over the median age I think. Lotsa >>>> people took lotsa pictures. I'm just starting to go through them, and >>>> my shots from my week in Tokyo before the meeting, now. I'll try to >>>> post some soon. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Dick >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Oct 06, 2010, at 6:00 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: >>>> >>>>> Getting too old for an LHSA event? No way, Dick! >>>>> Did anyone in the party actually take any pictures? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Nathan >>>>> >>>>> Nathan Wajsman >>>>> Alicante, Spain >>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu >>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu >>>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com >>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >>>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog >>>>> >>>>> YNWA >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 6, 2010, at 3:32 PM, Richard Taylor wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Stefan Daniel was asked about the "R Solution" at the LHSA meeting >>>>>> and he replied with what I felt was considerable regret that it was >>>>>> economically unfeasible given the current competition in the DSLR >>>>>> market. But, ... >>>>>> >>>>>> He went on to talk about the development of a *full-frame* camera >>>>>> with an EVF that would be primarily directed at M users but that >>>>>> would also take R lenses with an adapter. They are also considering >>>>>> development of a line of autofocus lenses for this camera. Let's >>>>>> hope they don't snatch defeat from the jaws of victory on this one >>>>>> like they did with the X-1. >>>>>> >>>>>> Another tidbit: Leica, at least for its M lenses, remains committed >>>>>> to the development of lenses that are fully corrected optically - no >>>>>> firmware corrections, please. >>>>>> >>>>>> By far the most interesting thing at Photokina was the new Fuji X100 >>>>>> that Fuji was showing in mockup only but with an operating >>>>>> viewfinder. The optical finder had projected frame lines and minimal >>>>>> info (shutter speed, f-stop and ISO) so it was nicely uncluttered. A >>>>>> flick of a switch converts the finder to an EVF. It uses an APS-C >>>>>> sensor and I saw nothing to make me think the frame lines were >>>>>> parallax corrected. Cool, nevertheless! It's about the size of a >>>>>> GF-1. It looks like an interesting camera and I look forward to >>>>>> seeing some images from it. >>>>>> >>>>>> The Wetzlar meeting was a lot of fun, but having signed up for *all* >>>>>> the tours I ended the week walked out and considerably tired. Maybe >>>>>> I'm just getting too old for this kind of stuff. :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Dick >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 06, 2010, at 5:35 AM, Richard Man wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Ah, so it's not even "may be we will look at it in 2 years, but >>>>>>> NEVER" :-( >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (well not that I use the R systems, but seeing stuff from Doug and >>>>>>> George, >>>>>>> clearly there is something there there) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 2:15 AM, Douglas Sharp <douglas.sharp at >>>>>>> gmx.de> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I quote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> R-SYSTEM >>>>>>>> A digital solution in the form of a R10 was not presentable. Such an >>>>>>>> investment would have been to great for Leica. The development of >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> S-System cost ?30m. A similar effort for a digital R was not >>>>>>>> fundable. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Not presentable (nicht darstellbar) should be "not feasible" - it's >>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>> expression often used by engineers - so what was actually meant >>>>>>>> above was >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "we took a look at the idea and shelved it 'cos we couldn't afford >>>>>>>> it in a >>>>>>>> month of Sundays, and it wouldn't be profitable even if we could" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>> Douglas >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 06.10.2010 06:00, Geoff Hopkinson wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Absolutely understandable disappointment for R lens owners of >>>>>>>>> course. >>>>>>>>> However the expectaiton for a 'solution' this Photokina came >>>>>>>>> entirely from >>>>>>>>> speculation and desire rather than specific promise. All largely >>>>>>>>> unremarked >>>>>>>>> here but there has been an awful lot of anguish and emotional >>>>>>>>> outpouring, >>>>>>>>> dummy spitting, rants and stompimg out of the room in the >>>>>>>>> (dedicated) L >>>>>>>>> Camera Forum. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Stefan Daniel told us in mid 2009 that they were working on the >>>>>>>>> 'suitable >>>>>>>>> solution' but not to expect it before this Photokina etc. That of >>>>>>>>> course >>>>>>>>> has now slipped further but at least they have provided some >>>>>>>>> slightly more >>>>>>>>> specific information on the possible form that it may take (in >>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>> terms). I think that Leica Camera have learnt a lesson there and >>>>>>>>> are less >>>>>>>>> likely to provide any specific models and developments that are >>>>>>>>> only >>>>>>>>> planned >>>>>>>>> or not. >>>>>>>>> According to an attendee at the LHSA meeting in Wtezlar Leica >>>>>>>>> management >>>>>>>>> have now excluded the possible solution prior to photokina 2012. >>>>>>>>> Personally I am still stunned tht the S2 development costs were >>>>>>>>> some 30 >>>>>>>>> million EURO and I note their comment that other medium format >>>>>>>>> camera >>>>>>>>> manufacturers occupied something like 50% less floor space at pk. >>>>>>>>> Not a >>>>>>>>> reassuring indicator for the genre, if unsurprising. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>> Geoff >>>>>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 6 October 2010 13:33, Jayanand Govindaraj<jayanand at >>>>>>>>> gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Looks like they are working overtime to 'repair their finances' >>>>>>>>> for the >>>>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>>>> being. Can't blame them for that, it is a pragmatic business >>>>>>>>>> decision. >>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>> Jayanand >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 4:08 AM, Geoff Hopkinson<hopsternew at >>>>>>>>>> gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Andy Barton, a MOD on the L Camera Forum has posted a summary of >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> responses >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> from Leica Camera Executives to a number of questions on Leica >>>>>>>>>>> products >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> policy. >>>>>>>>>>> You can read it here, even if not a meber of that forum >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/customer-forum/144758-leica-luf-%40-pkina-english.html >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>>> Geoff >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>>>>>>> information >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>>>>>> information >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>>>>> information >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> // richard <http://www.imagecraft.com/> >>>>>>> // icc blog: <http://imagecraft.wordpress.com> >>>>>>> // photo blog: <http://www.5pmlight.com> >>>>>>> [ For technical support on ImageCraft products, please include all >>>>>>> previous >>>>>>> replies in your msgs. ] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information