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Subject: [Leica] 80 Summilux R (was 'Am I being stupid? (R content)')
From: benedenia at gmail.com (Marty Deveney)
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 11:25:07 +1030
References: <20101106170900.GK38476@selenium.125px.com> <C8FB54C9.61EE%mark@rabinergroup.com> <AANLkTinfT=ryNNAtLQAdRe5deU3-tb8r0nUc1JC2JEr-@mail.gmail.com> <3BB9EF09-DA3A-43AA-AED7-B8AFB61536BD@embarqmail.com>

The interest in those photos is something of a mystery to her.  That's
why she's great.

Marty

On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Ric Carter <ricc at embarqmail.com> wrote:
> aaaahhhhh, rachel again
>
> ric
>
> On Nov 6, 2010, at 7:13 PM, Marty Deveney wrote:
>
>> The 90 APO is very impressive, but at portrait distances it is less
>> impressive than further away - the absence of a floating element
>> starts to show and there is noticeable curvature of field. ?This was
>> the motivation for the design used in the 75 Summicron, which focuses
>> to 0.75 m and gets you a tighter crop, and is the M lens I'd recommend
>> if you'd like a very modern rendering lens for portraits.
>>
>> The 80 R-Summilux is a very nice older design, but for less money you
>> can get a Nikkor 85/1.4 and an F3 and the photos will be
>> indistiguishable, except possibly unless you have a bunch of other
>> Leica R glass and shoot in colour and are not willing to manipulate to
>> match the colours. It would also mean that you may have to carry a
>> bunch of extra gear (which is also heavy gear).
>>
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/freakscene/Rachel/File0846.jpg.html
>>
>> I kept the Nikkor but returned the test sample 80 Summilux because I
>> like the F3 better than any of the R cameras and I already have a
>> bunch of other Nikon SLR lenses.
>>
>> Marty
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
>> wrote:
>>> Big difference though between an old Leitz Canada Summicron 90 for the R
>>> system and a brand new razor sharp cutting edge
>>> LEICA APO-SUMMICRON-R 90 mm f/2 ASPH whose specs outdo the 100 macro 
>>> which
>>> was spec king for a few decades. We should be specific as to what we are
>>> talking about.
>>> I'd be shooting with it.
>>> And I am now as I have it for the M and I think is the same lens expect 
>>> it
>>> has an M on it with an M mount.
>>> There is nothing "slow" about an 90mm f2 lens. Especially when shooting
>>> digitally.
>>> Leica seems to me which is why I like it to be a company which gets 
>>> smarter
>>> as it goes along. When it comes out with a new lens its better than what
>>> comes before. Usually by a long shot. As everything they've learned about
>>> optics during that time gets put into that lens. The old classic designs 
>>> are
>>> great as long as I get my basics covered first. And my basics are the
>>> current offerings from Leica. Their most recent designs. And I don't mind
>>> getting their ears. Tip of their nose even. Glasses. More than just their
>>> eyelashes.
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------
>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>> Photography
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>>> mark at rabinergroup.com
>>> Cars: ? http://tinyurl.com/2f7ptxb
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Tim Gray <tgray at 125px.com>
>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 13:09:00 -0400
>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Subject: [Leica] 80 Summilux R (was 'Am I being stupid? (R content)')
>>>>
>>>> In my talk of Leica R stuff, I completely forgot about the 80 Summilux. 
>>>> ?Any
>>>> comments on this lens compared to the 90 Summicron? ?What's a good 
>>>> price for
>>>> the 80?
>>>>
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In reply to: Message from tgray at 125px.com (Tim Gray) ([Leica] 80 Summilux R (was 'Am I being stupid? (R content)'))
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