Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/12/04
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Here is an article I wrote for my agents blog on this a while back: http://rising.blackstar.com/a-photo-credit-doesnt-pay-the-rent.html Harrison McClary On Dec 4, 2010, at 3:30 PM, <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote: > Lawrence Zeitlin offered: >>> Tina, I fully agree with your position but you are not describing the >>> world > as it is. It is harder to make a decent living as an independent > professional photographer than it is as an actor or even a poet. > Considering > the number of professional quality cameras out there, only the tiniest > fraction deliver pictures that are ever published. Given the quality > standards imposed by stock agencies, vanishingly few P&S pictures will ever > make the grade regardless of merit unless of a particularly newsworthy > event.<<<<<< > > > Hi Larry, > My reaction to people who give their photos away just for a credit line? > (Sorry I can't do that as my use of the language would be unbearable!) > Trust me! > > I'm constantly asked for images and the first thing I ask is .... "HOW > MUCH DO YOU PAY?" If they reply "we don't." Then I ask them if they get a > weekly salary or do you work for free?" Obviously the response is.. "Of > course I get a weekly salary!" My response is.. "Wonderful! Then why the > hell do you think I should work for free when you want one of my > photographs?" > > I rarely cut anyone slack who will be using a photo for any kind of > monetary return or advertising of any kind! No matter what or who it is. > > The head person of most major fund raising organizations and senior staff > members "ARE PAID!" So why should I or anyone give the picture free when > it's going to be used to raise maybe millions of dollars? Yeah I know I've > heard all the reasons why! But then why should the CEO get paid... Yes of > course some of these people are extremely wealthy and or have gazillions > of dollars and can easily afford to work for nothing. But the everyday > working photographer doesn't have that kind of money. > > I make a yearly donation to the Canadian Cancer Society of $500.00 and a > similar donation to the Victoria Hospital Foundation without a blink! WHY? > Well for personal reasons due to family situations with cancer and loosing > to it. And the hospital because I've been in the hospital myself. > > But, when I shoot for these people and they want use of independent > photos....... "THEY PAY ME!" Without a blink! > > The new gallery I'm represented by are doing rather nicely as they're > carrying my books, and a selection of my photography. And they're doing > quite nicely as last month they sold three prints at $1000.00 each. Plus a > couple this past week for $550 each.... cowboy pictures in what one might > call a "Fine Art" classification. And this is the first time I've been > represented by a gallery. So I'm quite happy with the siutation. > > Oh and who are these two guys? >>> And forget about B&W unless your last name is Adams or Weston. > > And my above mentioned sales? They have all been B&W! :-) Maybe I could > hang a long side this two chaps. ;-) Who were they again? I do believe a > couple of rock & fern shooters? > >>>> So if a photographer is offered an opportunity to have his/her pictures >> published in a national forum, grab at the chance. Even if there is no >> payment. It may be the only way to get recognition in an overcrowded >> field. Isn't that why we produce the LUG yearbook?<<<<<<< > > That isn't why I submit to the LUG YEAR book! I submit because I hope to > be along side a group of fun loving photogs who enjoy each others > friendship, camaraderie and neat photos! I sure as hell don't submit for > recognition, it's for fun! In all the years that recognition thing never > ever entered my head! > > If I give a photograph away it's usually for personal use to hang in a > home of a friend. Any others? Pay me! I don't do free nor recognition for > a credit line very well! > > cheers, > Dr. ted > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information