Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/12/07

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Subject: [Leica] Poor color prints from HP 9100
From: images at comporium.net (Tina Manley)
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 07:02:11 -0500
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If you are planning on doing a lot of printing, it would be worth looking
into ImagePrint.  It's expensive, but it's worth it and saves enough in ink
and paper to pay for itself:
http://www.colorbytesoftware.com/

<http://www.colorbytesoftware.com/>Tina

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 6:46 AM, Richard Man <richard at imagecraft.com> 
wrote:

> Further to this fiasco:
>
> I am using Win7, PS CS1 (!) and trial mode CS5. The reason I haven't
> upgraded PS in ages is because I mainly use Lr2.x and now LR3.x, but I need
> PS to do digital negatives.
>
> As I am using Win7, at least I do not suffer from the Snow Leopard / Epson
> issues.
>
> However, I did print a digital negative calibration chart out on the same
> sheet of film and so they are processed the same way:
>
> - ACPU, Adobe Color Printing Utility (supposedly print without any color
> management)
> - CS5, with Adobe RGB ->Adobe RGB null transform
> - CS1, print with "Same as Source" and "Application Manages Colors" (no
> color management)
>
> This is on a HP Z3100. I scan results with an Epson Expression 1000XL so
> it's not as accurate as a densitometer. However, the results are clear:
>
> - ACPU scales the output. This is consistent for letter size and my pano
> size of 8.5x22". May be it is a bad interaction with HP driver. I do not
> know, but the behavior is again consistent.
>
> - CS5 with null transform and CS1 with no color management produce output
> that are virtually the same. Any measurable differences is probably due to
> the digital negative->contact print->scan workflow.
>
> - ACPU output is VASTLY different from the other two.
>
> My conclusion is that ACPU is a piece of junk. In addition to who knows
> what
> it's printing, it:
> - has a lousy UI
> - scales your images
> - doesn't even have the courtesy to remember the last folder
> - open TIFF only
>
> Someone is asleep at the wheel in Adobe.
>
>
> --
> // richard <http://www.imagecraft.com/>
> // icc blog: <http://imagecraft.com/blog/>
> // photo blog: <http://www.5pmlight.com>
> [ For technical support on ImageCraft products, please include all previous
> replies in your msgs. ]
>
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-- 
Tina Manley, ASMP
www.tinamanley.com


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