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Subject: [Leica] Arhat Bakula
From: john.nebel at csdco.com (John Nebel)
Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 13:57:59 -0700
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Here are 18: http://thangkas.csd.net/18_arhat_index.html

On 12/8/2010 12:50 PM, Richard Man wrote:
> And when I was growing up, "18 Lohans" not 16, was popular with movies and
> manga :-)
>
> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 11:42 AM, John Nebel<john.nebel at csdco.com>  
> wrote:
>
>> Richard,
>>
>> If one searches on the Harvard Chinese rubbings website for Sixteen Arhats
>> at Shengyin Temple, the 3rd Arhat is unnamed, the name Pantaka is given to
>> two different Arhats, and the 10th is missing.
>>
>> I don't know the details of the 18th century mistakes other than the
>> hyperlink below.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> On 12/8/10 12:18 PM, Richard Man wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks! Curious what names were misassigned that the Qian Long emperor
>>> fixed
>>> and what you thought Harvard messed up?
>>>
>>> I am not sure if *my* ancestors were involved in the Tai Ping Rebellion,
>>> but
>>> it was started by Haka in the Guang Dong province, which is where my
>>> ancestors were from....
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 6:18 AM, John Nebel<john.nebel at csdco.com>   
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   Pasvorn,
>>>>
>>>> Here is a reference - Harvard messed up a few of the identifications, 
>>>> but
>>>> so
>>>> did the Chinese in the 18th century.   The Harvard library rubbings are
>>>> made from the stone copies of the originals.  Noedup either saw the 
>>>> stone
>>>> carvings or rubbings of them.  The original Guanxiu paintings were
>>>> destroyed
>>>> in the 19th century.
>>>>
>>>> http://vc.lib.harvard.edu/vc/deliver/~rubbings/olvwork348704<http://vc.lib.harvard.edu/vc/deliver/%7Erubbings/olvwork348704>
>>>> <http://vc.lib.harvard.edu/vc/deliver/%7Erubbings/olvwork348704>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/7/10 10:20 PM, Pasvorn Boonmark wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 3:36 PM, John Nebel<john.nebel at csdco.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The boy must have appeared in Guanxiu's dream along with Bakula; the
>>>>>> Arhats
>>>>>> are all painted from a dream in which they appeared and asked Guanxiu
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> paint them.  The boy is just visiting for a while?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Jonh,
>>>>>
>>>>> Interesting comment about the dream.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will have to read more about Guanxiu.  May be he is on Google book. 
>>>>> :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again for the picture and background info.  Fascinating...
>>>>> .
>>>>> -Pasvorn
>>>>>
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