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Subject: [Leica] IMG: annoying banding - is my M8 becoming a paper weight?
From: photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 21:54:57 +0100
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Tina, the light in this place was such that ISO 1250 was required, despite 
the fast lens. I don't think it is unreasonable to expect decent performance 
in such conditions. 

Cheers,
Nathan

Nathan Wajsman
Alicante, Spain
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YNWA







On Feb 9, 2011, at 9:38 PM, Tina Manley wrote:

> Never seen it on my M9, or my M8s for that matter.  I never used the M8s
> over 800 ISO, though.  With film, I very occasionally had to push TMax 400
> to 800 and I used TMax 1600 for candle-light - maybe 10 rolls in 40 years.
> I don't see any reason for using extreme ISOs when we have Leica fast
> lenses.
> 
> Tina
> 
> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at 
> gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Feb 9, 2011, at 12:03 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>> 
>>> Just an update...while Leica is studying the original DNG file and has
>> fallen silent, I have just downloaded another batch of photos shot on 
>> Sunday
>> in a bar, and again out of 45 pics about 4 or 5 are affected. This time I
>> used a different card and a different lens, so my only conclusion is that
>> the M8 sensor cannot cope with low light very well, or at least not my M8
>> sensor. Does not exactly inspire confidence and gives me serious pause 
>> when
>> considering any future purchase of an M9.
>> 
>> 
>> does this occur with an M9? reported?
>> 
>> anyone...
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> I am slowly coming to the conclusion (not just based on this incident,
>> but my overall experience) that Leica is like an Italian sports car or
>> motorcycle: brilliant when it works but unreliable.
>>> 
>>> Nathan
>>> 
>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>> Alicante, Spain
>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>>> 
>>> YNWA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2011, at 8:01 AM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Just unloaded a memory card with about 60 Leica M8 images. Of those,
>> four had annoying banding such as this one:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> http://www.greatpix.eu/All/Picture-A-Day/4253606_netUM#1166286723_jgdU7-O-LB
>>>> 
>>>> This is the first time I have seen this since buying the M8 in December
>> 2008. I suppose I should concluded that Leica's quality control is 
>> precisely
>> tuned so that the thing starts acting up just after the 2-year warranty
>> expires.
>>>> 
>>>> Has anyone else encountered a similar problem? If this gets worse, I
>> will have to send the M8 to Solms, good thing I have my GF-1....
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Nathan (not a happy camper this Monday morning)
>>>> 
>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>>>> 
>>>> YNWA
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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