Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/03/08
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Hi Ted and Nathan, mes amis Maybe I was too enthousiast saying "film is better" instead of "I like better B&W on film". IMO there are two things that film gives better than digital, at least for my experience. The blacks are more deepth, more dense, no noise in the shadows or lower light areas, the higlights are not blocked. Maybe I don't have enough skills on digital, but I'm much more fast editing at PS a B&W picture from film than converting it from digital color to B&W. It was a while I've not used film, after 2 or 3 months I'm using Silver Efex Pro, yes this is fine and I can get better results and approach much better the film, but in general I find that film give me better results according to my preferences. You say that actually you think in color, and this is arriving to me too, digital color is so nice and immediate that it becomes difficult think on B&W or maybe do a conversion that it satisfy you better than the color version. Probably this is too influenced by a psichological "effect", you immediately see a color digital picture and can do also immediately the conversion; with film this arrives after some hours or days and you have already forgett the natural colors of the scene, than when you scann and see, I say "oh! is beautiful!". I hope I have give a response to your questions, maybe wrong..., but according to my experience and skills on digital. I don't know if the sensor of a M9 is better corrected for the things I've commented. I think that it should be a special firmware or sensor to do directly B&W... I don't think that B&W could be defined as simply "substract the color", the original invention was different. This is my opinion....., my 2 cents ... I don't think I can write today more comments about this subject, now I'm on the office and I go to the Opera House in one hour. Thanks for your questions! cheers Lluis 2011/3/8 <tedgrant at shaw.ca> > Lluis Ripoll said: > >> M7, Elmarit 28mm Asph, Plus X..... Film is better! <<<< >>>> >>> > Nathan Offered: > >> > Very nice, Lluis, especially the 2nd and last one. I don't know if film >>> > is better, it is just different.<<<< >>> >> > Hi both, :-) > > Lluis and Nathan a couple of questions? > > 1/ Why do you say "Film is better?" > > 2/ "Where do you think film is better?" > > Since I became "Hooked on digital," it has never occurred to me to ever go > back to film..... "OF ANY KIND!" Or even think about it. And don't miss it > for one milli-second! > > I shoot nothing but digital with various cameras and I still expose the > neat things I did with film. Actually, I think in colour "digital colour is > immediate, result is right there in a moment!" No need to or rarely need to > bracket frame after frame as we did with film. Nor do I have to take it to > the lab, wait for the developing a couple of hours? Days? Weeks? Depending > which film I was using? > > And as I understand from Tina and others, today there is software? I think > that's what it is? You can make digital images look like they were shot on > film. But being me, my response is always "WHY? AND WHO CARES?" Certainly > if > the content is a smashing great content! After all isn't it the content > that > matters most and not whether the image looks like Tri-x, Kodachrome or > whatever?Just a couple of early morning thoughts and questions. > cheers, > ted > > ================================================ > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan Wajsman" <photo at > frozenlight.eu> > To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> > Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 11:02 PM > Subject: Re: [Leica] The MACBA & El Raval > > > Very nice, Lluis, especially the 2nd and last one. I don't know if film is >> better, it is just different. >> >> Saludos, >> Nathan >> >> Nathan Wajsman >> Alicante, Spain >> http://www.frozenlight.eu >> http://www.greatpix.eu >> http://www.nathanfoto.com >> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog >> >> YNWA >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mar 5, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Lluis Ripoll wrote: >> >> The MACBA is the Museum of art contemporary in Barcelona >>> >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/El_Raval/2011020228w.jpg.html >>> >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/El_Raval/2011020227w.jpg.html >>> >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/El_Raval/2011020216w.jpg.html >>> >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/El_Raval/2011020210w.jpg.html >>> >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/El_Raval/2011020208w.jpg.html >>> >>> M7, Elmarit 28mm Asph, Plus X..... Film is better! >>> >>> >>> Thanks for looking, your c&c are welcome >>> >>> Saludos >>> Lluis >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/ >>> http://photo.net/photos/lluisripoll >>> Blog: >>> http://lluisripollphotography.wordpress.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >