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Subject: [Leica] PDN Photo contest
From: tedgrant at shaw.ca (tedgrant at shaw.ca)
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 23:24:51 -0800
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R. Clayton McKee OFFERED;
Subject: Re: [Leica] PDN Photo contest


>>I'm naturally a collector of reality, not a creator of visual styles. <<<<<

Hi Clayton,
What an interesting description of a photojournalist or a documentary 
photographer! 

May I have your permission to use your words to a class of young guys and 
gals attending our local photography school? Some will go into 
photojournalism others into commercial photography?? I can't think of a more 
wonderful description of what we photojournalists are.

"Collectors of Reality!"

thank you.
cheers,
ted


















> On Wed Mar 9 14:38 , Chris Crawford <chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> sent:
> 
>>I agree. Charging entry fees for something like this is simple 
>>>exploitation. They justify it by claming that industry buyers will 
>>see the winning entries when they're published. Peter and David Turnley, 
>>>who are from my hometown,
>>said that they got started by walking into newspaper and photo agency
>>offices with a portfolio, and people actually talked to them and wanted to
>>see their work. I don't think anyone will do that anymore; now aspiring
>>photographers are there to be milked for money rather than considered for
>>jobs.
> 
> The Turnleys, gifted as they are, are journalists, not 
> commercial/advertising shooters. That's a totally different world than 
> PDN. (PDN used to do an annual pj/docu issue once a year, and its visual 
> content was totally different from the other issues. Good stuff but not by 
> any of the usual contributors.)
> 
>>From what people in the commercial side of the industry tell me, if you 
>>want to work in New York doing high-end commercial work, fashion, 
>>advertising, that sort of thing, this is a very good place to be seen and 
>>it's worth entering if you've got the visual chops to play in that league.
> 
> Otherwise, it's simply bragging rights, and may or may not be worth the 
> trouble.
> 
> I entered a couple of times in my young and stupid days and got enough 
> commercial work from the visibility to make the entry fee several times 
> over... but I didn't enjoy the lifestyle or the work, didn't want to be a 
> commercial shooter, and really didn't have the visual creativity to play 
> with the boys. I'm naturally a collector of reality, not a creator of 
> visual styles.
> 
> 
> R. Clayton McKee
> PhotoJournalist
> from somewhere just south of somewhere else...
> 
> 
> 
>      
> 
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