Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/03/13
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]The matrix meter is just a clever weighted meter. Typically Nikon's matrix metering underexposes backlit scenes on B&W film. Sometimes when I know this will happen I move in or zoom in close, meter, lock, move out and shoot, or fill the frame with another shadowed area, lock and shoot. Marty On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Gary Pinkerton <gpinkcp at msn.com> wrote: > Yeah, that's what I do with my R8s; I just couldn't come up with a > scenario that a 'matrix' lock would be beneficial. > >> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 23:51:10 -0600 >> From: grduprey at mchsi.com >> To: lug at leica-users.org >> Subject: Re: [Leica] R9 users, is there no exposure lock when using >> matrix metering, only on spot and average? >> >> I don't, as in Multi/Matrix it would defeat the purpose of that mode. ?If >> I use AE Lock, I use it in Spot Mode, the only mode that makes any sense >> to use AE Lock. >> >> Cheers, >> Gene >> . >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gary Pinkerton" <gpinkcp at msn.com> >> To: lug at leica-users.org >> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 9:49:44 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central >> Subject: Re: [Leica] R9 users, is there no exposure lock when using >> matrix metering, only on spot and average? >> >> Y'all have peaked my interest. I'm curious what type lighting situation >> would you use a lock for matrix (or multi pattern as Leica calls theirs) >> Thanks >> Gary >> >> > Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 15:09:40 +1030 >> > From: benedenia at gmail.com >> > To: lug at leica-users.org >> > Subject: Re: [Leica] R9 users, is there no exposure lock when using >> > matrix metering, only on spot and average? >> > >> > And as an aside - exposure lock is plenty useful once you have a feel >> > for how the meter works. >> > >> > Marty >> > >> > On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Marty Deveney <benedenia at gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > > Not sure about the mode change, but it definitely locks. >> > > >> > > Marty >> > > >> > > On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Philip Forrest >> > > <photo.forrest at earthlink.net> wrote: >> > >> I think that exposure lock switches matrix to center-weighted at the >> > >> time of making the calculation. That is, if the camera allows the two >> > >> to be set at the same time the program would have to shift out of >> > >> matrix or else there would be too many images that would be just >> > >> unusable due to things like bright/dark areas that the matrix too >> > >> account for but then were not in the final exposure. My F4 did this, >> > >> if >> > >> I recall correctly. >> > >> >> > >> Phil Forrest >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 19:33:09 -0600 (CST) >> > >> grduprey at mchsi.com wrote: >> > >> >> > >>> Marty, >> > >>> >> > >>> Are you sure it works? Matrix metering by definition is a program >> > >>> that takes all of the light values seen in several regions of the >> > >>> frame and runs them through a complex program to come up with a >> > >>> exposure value for proper exposure. ?Exposure lock would be useless >> > >>> in this mode. ?My wife's D200 has matrix and exposure lock does not >> > >>> work in this mode. Same with my R8. >> > >>> >> > >>> Cheers, >> > >>> Gene >> > >>> >> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> > >>> From: "Marty Deveney" <benedenia at gmail.com> >> > >>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >> > >>> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:09:25 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada >> > >>> Central >> > >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] R9 users, is there no exposure lock when using >> > >>> matrix metering, only on spot and average? >> > >>> >> > >>> Exposure lock works in matrix mode on my Nikon F90x, F100, F4 and F5 >> > >>> cameras. ?I just tried it. >> > >>> >> > >>> Leica must think that this is the way you _should_ use matrix >> > >>> metering. >> > >>> >> > >>> Marty >> > >>> >> > >>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 7:23 AM, ?<grduprey at mchsi.com> wrote: >> > >>> > Vick, >> > >>> > >> > >>> > Matrix metering is a computer averaging program using a whole slew >> > >>> > of factors. ?Because of this there is no exposure lock, as you do >> > >>> > not have a single point to lock onto. ?By definition the computer >> > >>> > program makes the exposure from an average of all levels in the 5 >> > >>> > zones used by the camera. ?You can lock on to a single value only >> > >>> > in spot mode. ?This is the same even if you use a Nikon, Canon, >> > >>> > Sony etc. ?The R9 manual explains this quite clearly. >> > >>> > >> > >>> > Cheers, >> > >>> > Gene >> > >>> > >> > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > >>> > From: "Vick Ko" <vick.ko at sympatico.ca> >> > >>> > To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >> > >>> > Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 2:27:45 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada >> > >>> > Central Subject: [Leica] R9 users, is there no exposure lock when >> > >>> > using matrix metering, only on spot and average? >> > >>> > >> > >>> > Hey, R9 users, is there no exposure lock when using matrix >> > >>> > metering, >> > >>> > only on spot and average? >> > >>> > >> > >>> > Mind checking on your camera for me? >> > >>> > >> > >>> > On mine, only the spot and average metering work with the exposure >> > >>> > lock, i.e. locks the exposure when I push to the 2nd pressure >> > >>> > point. >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > Vick >> > >>> > >> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >> > >>> > Leica Users Group. >> > >>> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> > >>> > information >> > >>> > >> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >> > >>> > Leica Users Group. >> > >>> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> > >>> > information >> > >>> > >> > >>> >> > >>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>> Leica Users Group. >> > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > >>> >> > >>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>> Leica Users Group. >> > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> Leica Users Group. >> > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Leica Users Group. >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >