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Subject: [Leica] Lightroom3
From: kanner at acm.org (Herbert Kanner)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 13:33:37 -0700
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Thank you so much, Tina. I found some short Adobe tutorials last 
night but not that overall one. I did find one on noise reduction, 
and was impressed after trying it out on some old ISO 2000 images.

Herb


>http://tv.adobe.com/watch/getting-started-with-adobe-photoshop-lightroom-3/whats-new-in-lightroom-3/
>
><http://tv.adobe.com/watch/getting-started-with-adobe-photoshop-lightroom-3/whats-new-in-lightroom-3/>It's
>much, much better than LR2.  Faster but lots of new features.  You can't
>find them all on your own so watch the video.
>
>Tina
>
>On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Herbert Kanner <kanner at acm.org> wrote:
>
>  > For over a year, I had been using LR2 because it wouldn't run on OS X
>  > (Tiger), and I wasn't about to enrich Apple with $129 for an OS upgrade.
>  > When Fry's suddenly offered it for $29 I installed Snow Leopard,
>fought with
>  > the things that stopped working, like printers, until I
>understood how Apple
>  > had reorganized stuff. Then, yesterday, I installed the LR upgrade.
>  >
>  > So, it would be interesting to know what the major changes are. Most 
> things
>  > look pretty much the same. I understand they claim that they have 
> improved
>  > the noise reduction, but it is so pathetic compared to what NoiseNinja 
> will
>  > do in its most simple-minded automatic mode that I would not even bother
>  > with the LR noise reduction facility.
>  >
>  > Interesting point about NoiseNinja. They provide a chart which can be
>  > photographed with various cameras at various ISO values, the idea
>being that
>  > you create noise profiles from those photographs and then use
>them to reduce
>  > noise in subsequent photos. Well, I tried it, and to my surprise found 
> that
>  > the dumb simple way of using it produced better results.
>  >
>  > The simplest way is to go full automatic. The software finds a number of
>  > uniform areas in the picture, samples them, and then produces a profile 
> for
>  > THAT picture which is then used to remove noise. It does show you
>what spots
>  > it is sampling. It can be fooled if some area with uniform microscopic
>  > detail looks like noise. I found one photo where the automatic
>procedure did
>  > not work. In that case, one has the option of manually selecting
>small areas
>  > in the picture that should look uniform, drawing little sampling 
> rectangles
>  > just as if one were cropping out tiny areas. I.e., you're telling the
>  > software where sample the noise.
>  >
>  > One drawback is that it produces .tiff files that are over 100 MB in 
> size.
>  > They can be cut back with what I think is loss-less compression, but 
> that
>  > becomes an extra step.
>  >
>  > Can anyone summarize for me what other goodies besides backing up at a 
> SANE
>  > time differentiate LR3 from LR2?
>  >
>  > Herb
>  > --
>  > Herbert Kanner
>  > kanner at acm.org
>  > 650-326-8204
>  >
>  > Do not meddle in the affairs of cats,
>  > for they are subtle and will pee
>  > on your computer!
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>
>--
>Tina Manley, ASMP
>www.tinamanley.com
>
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-- 
Herbert Kanner
kanner at acm.org
650-326-8204

Do not meddle in the affairs of cats,
for they are subtle and will pee
on your computer!


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