Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/04/15
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Hi Ted, I wonder if you are thinking about this one, from Seville in 2003 or 2004? http://www.frozenlight.eu/fotosevilla/night/content/L2004_14_12_large.html That was one of my most-commented-upon pictures ever. Cheers, Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog YNWA On Apr 15, 2011, at 8:43 AM, <tedgrant at shaw.ca> <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote: > Lawrence Zeitlin offered > Subject: Re: [Leica] Barcelona in color > > >> Nathan, >> Not trolling at all. I was just curious. Many of the pictures that you >> post >> in and around Alicante are about people too, yet you usually shoot in >> color.<<<, > > > Hi Larry, > That may be true, however some of Nathan's more spectacular photographs > over the years have been people in B&W! There is one I recall from several > years ago at night with a few people on the street. I believe Madrid? > Barcelona? Or some other location prior to his moving to Alicante? It was > most eye catching simply because it was in B&W! > >> I reject Dr. Ted's pat aphorism that when you photograph people in color, >> you photograph their clothes but when you shoot B&W you photograph their >> soul. <<< > > Be my guest and reject all you like my friend. :-) However let me give an > example.:-) True incident in the UK several years ago. > > Two photographers with a portrait studio decided they'd only shoot B&W > portraits. They completely renovated the studio front windows, re-opening > as a B&W portraits only! In the front exhibit space they placed beautiful > B&W portrait prints and advertised they only did their portraits in B&W. > > Clients who insisted on colour were offered B&W or the doorway! One would > think them a bit looney given this was the beginning of a new operation > and one would surely want every dollar possible. > > However? Given it being a very fine portrait studio originally with a > great number of clients prior to the change over. Within the first three > months they tripled the gross income shooting only B&W! Whatever it is > about B&W drew a wonderful new clientele. > > Actually the difference is the "content" creates which is greater in many > cases. > > Disasters generally look worse in B&W simply because the content is > usually violent and death! Of course not in every case. What is the B&W > photograph that comes to mind from Vietnam? I have two without question. > Eddie Adams photo of the police officer shooting the VC through the head > and the young girl running away from the Napalm with her clothes and body > burnt. Vivid B&W both! And colour wouldn't have added anything! > >>> Imagine Matthew Brady's problem trying to photograph the US Civil war in >>> color using the wet collodion process.<< > > I doubt they'd be any better! As most are "classic content" images to > start with, so I doubt colour would've improved them at all. Regardless > of the technical situation. Along those lines if we compare the dramatic > B&W movies of the past, quite often these days we see with "colour added." > Quite frankly they look quite horrid as the colour adds absolutely > nothing, but almost destroys the craftsmanship of the lighting people and > camera angles . > > Colour can in many cases, be a complete distraction from the content. As I > understand photography, it's the content that is the most important part > of the photograph. That is unless one is dabbling strictly in colour for > colour sake. > > So Larry mon ami it's basically "to each his own." I shoot colour when the > assignment is to be shot in colour and B&W when the assignment is for B&W > re-production. I would offer, of the 100,000 images in the National > Gallery of Canada collection they are all B&W documentary images. The > 280,000 images in the National Archives of Canada collection? It's > probably 75% B&W, 25% colour. Again simply because of the assignment and > whether magazine assignments, travel or tourism or whether the client > asked specifically to shoot in whatever medium. > > I suppose if you owned one of my published medical books, "This is Our > Work. The Legacy of Sir William Osler" "Doctor's Work" or "Women in > Medicine. A celebration of their Work." You might have a better > understanding what I mean: "When you photograph people in colour, you > photograph their clothes. But when you photograph people in B&W, you > photograph their souls!" > > And as far as digital? Quite often I use my Digilux 2 set to shoot B&W and > I get some very interesting B&W images. Actually the really cool thing is, > looking through the viewfinder at a B&W world and "Click!" A B&W image > right out of the camera! :-) > > cheers, > Dr. ted :-) > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >