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Subject: [Leica] 560MM leica lens
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:38:59 +0530
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Henning,
I tried both the Nikon and the Leica 400mm lenses when Howard was with us
last year. The thing I really liked about them was the weight, so I really
tried - on my Nikon D300 they were lightweight 600mm lenses. I, at least,
found it very tough to use on moving subjects - could be mainly due to lack
of familiarity, of course.

After using my autofocus lenses (70-200 & 200-400), Howard promptly sold
both these lenses and shifted to Nikon AF lenses. For stuff that moves, and
sometimes moves fast at oblique angles, I still think autofocus makes life
much easier.
Cheers
Jayanand


On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Henning Wulff <henningw at 
archiphoto.com>wrote:

> Hi Jayanand,
>
> Canons have a similar over-ride system as do some other systems which works
> quite well, but for manual focus neither can touch the slide focussing,
> especially for rapidly moving subjects.
>
> In the late 70's after having used the 400/6.8 for a number of years I got
> fed up with the lens' field curvature and sold it, getting the Nikon
> 400/5.6PC which was their first foray into low dispersion optics. It was
> 'ED' before there was 'ED', and it was an outstanding lens optically - 
> miles
> ahead of the 400/6.8. I haven't tried it lately as my son has it, but it 
> was
> better than anyone else's 400 at least until the year 2000 including all of
> the later Nikons. However, the handling sucked and I often regretted 
> selling
> the 400/6.8 as I really couldn't do wildlife with it. Shortly before 2000 I
> switched from Nikon to Canon for a number of reasons, and acquired the
> 100-400 Canon. Talking only about the 400mm end, at it's best it's as good
> optically as the 400/6.8, but nowhere near the 400/5.6 Nikkor. However, it
> was a zoom, had autofocus and above all had IS. That together made it
> preferable to the Nikkor. The zoom and the IS also made it preferable for
> the most part to the 400/6.8 Leica.
>
> Optical performance is one thing but having a lens that can make it easy to
> get the shot is even more important.
>
> A couple of years ago I decided to find a 400/6.8 again, and I got it as
> well as the 560 for a good price. When it is bright out, and I don't need
> the IS, and I don't need the zoom part, I use the 400/6.8. I only use the
> 560 when I REALLY need the extra reach, as it doesn't handle nearly as well
> as the 400. The 400 is great on full frame, but is especially nice on the
> 7D, as the viewfinder is good and you get the extra magnification. I also
> use it on the Panasonic G1 and GH2, but the resolution isn't quite good
> enough for the GH2 sensor, and considering you're dealing with an angle of
> view equivalent to an 800 on full frame, finding your target quickly can be
> challenging!
>
>
>  Henning,
>> All the new Nikon telephotos, at least, have what is called a M/A switch -
>> you can use a manual focus override even if the body is on autofocus mode.
>> I
>> use this to fine tune focusing all the time on my 200-400. My view is, at
>> least for wildlife photography, capturing action is much easier with
>> autofocus. For static subjects, manual focus would be fine.
>> Cheers
>> Jayanand
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Henning Wulff <henningw at archiphoto.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>>   I think these lenses were priced up to $20,000 or so, and in the 80's
>>> when
>>>  they were trying to unload them they offered a free car (VW Fox;
>>> Brazilian
>>>  made) with the lens.
>>>
>>>  They are also a true long focus lens, not telephoto so are about 800mm
>>>  long. This one has a triplet of very large size (f/6.3) with exotic
>>> glasses;
>>>  not easy to make, use (or sell :-)).
>>>
>>>  As for the quality of the 400 and 560 f/6.8's vs. newer lens, the newer
>>>  lenses will win in general. A new AF300/2.8 Nikkor with 2x teleconverter
>>>  will probably have more even performance, but won't be better in the
>>> center
>>>  than the 560. The 300 alone will be a noticeable amount better than the
>>>  older lenses.
>>>
>>>  If you don't practice a lot with the slide focussing, autofocus will
>>>  definitely give you more useable shots of animals out in the open. In
>>> the
>>>  bush, autofocus is a pain and really doesn't work.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
> --
>
>      Henning J. Wulff
>  Wulff Photography & Design
> mailto:henningw at archiphoto.com
>  http://www.archiphoto.com
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