Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/05/04
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Slobodan - count me in as interested. ernie On 5/4/2011 7:33 AM, Slobodan Dimitrov wrote: > I just found out that next year, 2012, 120 film will be 100 years old. > Anyone willing to do a celebratory project to commemorate the milestone? > S.d. > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Carlos Manuel Freaza<cmfreaza at yahoo.com.ar> >> Date: May 4, 2011 1:53:25 AM PDT >> To: rolleiusers at yahoogroups.com >> Subject: Re: [rolleiusers] Re: Care& feeding of '29 Original >> Reply-To: rolleiusers at yahoogroups.com >> >> Kirk: >> 120 film was available from 1912 and the Rolleiflex was designed in 1928, >> it could be made to use 120 film but Heidecke wanted to keep the camera >> as compact and small as posssible and then he chose the 117 film (B1-6). >> The Rolleiflex was a market successs and hardly the firsts users got it >> they asked the factory about to adapt it to use longer film; F&H found a >> way to retrofit the camera for 620 film spools use with 12 frames. >> >> According the explanation in Claus Prochnow's Report 1, the 620 spools >> larger flanges made contact with the upper spool chamber and then it had >> to be enlarged accordingly, the lower spool was housed in a cage and >> projected slightly and then the camera back received two spherical cuts. >> The camera exterior was kept original without changes. >> >> The camera could also be adapted for 120 film at factory, but it required >> major changes with modifications even for the camera exterior (i.e. a >> additional spool knob and a new wider transport knob with a groove) and >> the changes for the camera inside were significant too. >> While the adaptation for 620 film looks pretty simple for a technician >> wanting to do the task, the adaptation for 120 film looks more complex >> requiring special parts, 120 spools had slight variants at the time and >> the adaptation needed to consider these variants. >> >> It was from January 1932 with the first Rolleiflex Standard model that >> the Rolleiflex cameras were made to use 120 film from factory. The 117 >> film was discontinued in 1949, F&H decision to adopt the 120 film size >> had nothing to do with the 117 film availability, the Rolleiflex users >> wanted a longer film. >> >> Carlos >> >> PS:If you have the 620 spools, it's pretty easy to respool 120 film, the >> only difference 120-620 is the spool, film size is the same. >> >> --- El mi? 4-may-11, Kirk Thompson<thompsonkirk at hotmail.com> escribi?: >> >>> De: Kirk Thompson<thompsonkirk at hotmail.com> >>> Asunto: [rolleiusers] Re: Care& feeding of '29 Original >>> Para: rolleiusers at yahoogroups.com >>> Fecha: mi?rcoles, 4 de mayo de 2011, 1:03 >>> Thanks, Richard, for having a go at >>> it, but unfortunately those aren't solutions (if there are >>> any). >>> >>> 1. No way 120, it's too fat. The early Rolleis used 117 >>> film. Phillips explains that in 1929 it was the only >>> size that had the frame numbers printed in the right place >>> on the backing paper. 117 was 6 cm wide but had a thin >>> spindle (making a thinner roll), small flanges, and >>> different holes in the ends of the spools. >>> >>> When 117 was discontinued, many of the original Rolleis >>> were converted to 620 film (which is still available from >>> B&H). 620 has a skinny spindle and small flanges like >>> 117, but it required a modification of the cameras: a >>> different-sized left bump and right key to engage the >>> take-up spool. These are the conversion parts I have some >>> small hope of finding, if anyone knows of an old Rollei >>> burial site where such things can be found. >>> >>> 2. Years of experience have proved that klutzes like me do >>> not work on their own cameras. So I still want to know if >>> there's a classic camera repairman who retains old parts and >>> skills. (Fleenor and Krikor don't work on these.) >>> >>> Kirk >> __._,_.___ >> Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic >> Messages in this topic (5) >> RECENT ACTIVITY: >> Visit Your Group >> MARKETPLACE >> Find useful articles and helpful tips on living with Fibromyalgia. Visit >> the Fibromyalgia Zone today! >> >> Stay on top of your group activity without leaving the page you're on - >> Get the Yahoo! Toolbar now. >> >> Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest ? Unsubscribe ? Terms of Use >> . >> >> __,_._,___ > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >