[Leica] Another shot across the S2 Bow... H4D-31

[mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)]

This chat list is very slick with the little faces on the left of the people
in it and everyone is very self congratulatory with the slick html interface
Click on  a pic and nothing happens. What you see is what you get which is
less then screen size.
The whole list could for all we know a gigantic hoax in which all shots were
done with credit card cameras posing as medium format with The joke being on
us. We'd never certainly ever know the difference  between the Casio and the
Samsung you sure cant tell anything at that size.
And by credit card camera I means it  looks like a one; not a camera you buy
with one.

I'll take our LUG text only interface anyday with url's to click on which
could be as big as your house and the wonderful LUG gallery.


--------------------
Mark William Rabiner


> From: Frank Filippone <red735i at earthlink.net>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 10:45:49 -0700
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Another shot across the S2 Bow... H4D-31
> 
> First off, the images shown are truly beautiful and the pet shots are
> great.... .   but........
> 
> Doug.. assuming you had more  patience than I, what 2 different tasks did
> you ascertain from the comments?  I sort of get the feeling that there is a
> portrait combo and a walk around the town combo...  but even after reading
> (?)  5 pages out of 13, I can not figure out which is better for what....
> 
> I don't know why anyone would compare images in 2 shots, done with 2
> different scenes, from JPG files, of size 600x9000 pixels, from different
> users.  I won't mention different lenses...of different focal lengths....
> 
> No less make comments on comparative quality.
> 
> No less spend $30-50 Grand based upon those kinds of comparisons.....
> 
> And let's not forget that a techie comparison has no room for comments
> like...
> Nice composition
> Beautiful light
> Wonderful hair
> Pretty girl
> Etc.
> 
> What the pages I read smack of is... "If you use this camera, your images
> will be as wonderful as these"....  which of course, is pure rubbish....but
> some of the respondents are actually making buying decisions based upon 
> both
> the images as well as the comments....
> 
> That's the problem ... someone has to take the time to actually use proper
> scientific technique.
> 
> BTW, I did pick up that there are Hassy V series to S2 lens adapters.... A
> proper test  would end the sensor comparison wars... same lens, different
> sensor....
> 
> Oh for the days of Modern Photography and their mind numbing testing..... 
> or
> Erwin Puts....who at least it pretty anal about using scientific technique
> in his testing.
> 
> BTW, anyone wonder why Erwin has not done this comparison?
> 
> Frank Filippone
> Red735i at earthlink.net
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+red735i=earthlink.net at leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=earthlink.net at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of 
> Doug
> Herr
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 8:31 AM
> To: lug at leica-users.org
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Another shot across the S2 Bow... H4D-31
> 
> Frank Filippone wrote:
> 
>>>> 
> I went looking for a comparison study of these 2 fine cameras and their
> lenses and their outputs.  Could not find something that was really done
> objectively or on equal terms.
> <<<
> 
> It's not entirely objective, but there's a thread on GetDPI.com's forum
> where a wide variety of S2 users - professional and amateur - are showing
> what kind of photos they're making with the S2.  One (who appears to be
> thoughtful, intelligent and as skilled with words as he is with images) is
> using the S2 along with his Hasselblad digital system, and he's using them
> for different tasks.  It seems to me that comparing them on equal terms is 
> a
> non sequitur.  IMHO it's best to figure out what tasks you're likely to
> demand of the camera, then choose the tool best suited to the job.  Either
> one will produce outstanding results when used where it's at its best.
> 
> The thread (it's long and pixel-intensive) is at
> http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21559
> 
> Doug Herr
> Birdman of Sacramento
> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
> 
> 
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