Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/05/17
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Jim! You mention the Bolex C8, this was my first movie camera. I agree with you, I've never been able to shot with a camera with too many buttons ... Saludos Lluis El 17/05/2011, a las 16:25, Jim Shulman escribi?: > One of my favorite examples of modular systems gone amok are 8mm movie > cameras. Most were a very simple box design, with reels mounted > either > vertically or front-to-face. With the advent of automatic exposure, > zoom > lenses, reflex viewing, pistol grips, etc. they grew into unwieldy > monsters. Take a look at a simple Bolex, the C8, and then the P3, > which > had included grafts of a power zoom, reflex finder, electric eye, > pistol > grip, and so forth. Canon 8s also underwent a similar metamorphosis. > Only a redesign cleaned up the ergonomics considerably. > > Jim Shulman > Wynnewood, PA > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lug-bounces+jshulman=judgecrater.com at leica-users.org > [mailto:lug-bounces+jshulman=judgecrater.com at leica-users.org] On > Behalf Of > mehrdad > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:22 AM > To: Leica Users Group > Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica M9P or M9.2 or M10 > > there is no future proofing, modular systems become bulky and cost too > much > to build. leica only advantage for us (the users) is the good resell > value > when compared to other brands. > > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:38 AM, wildlightphoto at earthlink.net < > wildlightphoto at earthlink.net> wrote: > >> Lawrence Zeitlin wrote: >> >>>>> >> I do fault Leica for abandoning the upgrading philosophy that served >> them well in the past. Why should any photographer have to buy an > entirely >> new camera to get an improved sensor or microprocessor? The really >> expensive >> parts of the camera, the body, the rangefinder, the viewfinder, and >> most > of >> the internal mechanisms remain unchanged. >> <<< >> >> I suspect that for a camera produced in the thousands (vs. many >> tens of >> thousands) a full-frame sensor and the supporting electronics are the >> expensive parts. >> >>>>> >> I would have liked Leica to design a modular digital M camera where >> packages >> of components could have been easily replaced. Failing that, I would > have >> appreciated a digital back for the M and CL cameras. It worked for >> the R >> series. >> <<< >> >> Unfortunately most of the market didn't see the advantages of this > approach >> in the R series. Along with improved sensors and processors the >> market >> wanted ever-improved AF, storage options, frame rates and other such >> features. A few electronic upgrades may be possible without also > upgrading >> data bus, power supply, heat dissipation, & card writers but sooner >> or >> later (usually sooner) the camera's technology as originally built >> hits > the >> wall and the upgraded camera's performance will be throttled by a >> non-upgradeable component. >> >> During the LTM era upgrades were feasible because labor was >> relativley >> inexpensive and the pace of equipment technology change was much >> slower >> than we see now. It makes little economic sense to use expensive >> labor > to >> upgrade an existing camera that will be limited by its older >> technology >> when a replacement camera not limited by older components costs less. >> >> Doug Herr >> Birdman of Sacramento >> http://www.wildlightphoto.com >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> mail2web - Check your email from the web at >> http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > > > -- > ------------------------------------- > regards, mehrdad > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information