Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/11/09
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]OOOPS. Forgot something. The T'ang dynasty poet who is called in the west "Li Po" (someone in China will tell us what the Chinese call him - it's different) supposedly died when he, seeing the moon reflected in the water, attempted to embrace the image. He drowned. NOBODY would die for a moon which projected an image the same value as the Safeway Parking Lot! Nobody! Not me, not you! Nobody! So, let's think a little basic Zoney Baloney. If you expose for the moon, using "sunny 16" you will get a moon that is ZONE 5! How supremely unromantic! So, increase your exposure by two stops. That is, let's say you are shooting at ISO 100. Your exposure should not be 1/100 @ f/16 (gray moon), but 1/100 at f/8. That will give you your zone 7 (white with detail) exposure. Then, see if your terrestrial landscape would meter at about 1/100 @ f/5.6, or if you wouldn't mind a darker earth, f/4. I hope to see what you end up with. > Clayton is right on. > > When I had students a few years back this would always become a topic, > especially around this time of year. Somebody would always bring in a > picture that was pretty much all black that had a tiny and very fuzzy > white spot right in the middle of it. Tiny because when we SEE the moon it > dominates our perception and we ignore the frame, so we forget about > everything else. White because it is very overexposed. Fuzzy because the > intense exposure of the moon, a tiny spot, would illuminate that part of > the emulsion so much that it would become a light source radiating to the > surrounding area, exposing it, incrementally diminishing in a circle > surrounding the moon image. > > One very important thing to consider is that the moon is full when it is > directly opposite the sun. The time to shoot it if you don't want the > result described above is just when the sun goes down. The best time of > year to do this is most likely the September full moon, if it happens in > late September, or the October if that happens early in the month. That > way you can get the earth and the moon, too, in relative balance. In the > summer, the earth will be a bit bright destroying the drama, and in the > winter, a bit dark - also destroying the drama but in a different way. > This month could be ideal for an earth that is a stop or maybe a bit more > on the dark side. Just do it right when the moon comes up. Otherwise, what > you'll get is just a picture of the moon. Next month? Forget it. It's gone. > > It's a question of balance. As the sun goes down, the earth gets darker. > The moon stays the same. It is just as bright as the Safeway parking lot > at midday. Remember those moon rocks? Gray... So, set your > aperture/shutter speed for that, and meter the landscape. If it's a stop > or two darker than your sunny 16, you'll get some detail. More than that, > no. > > There has been a fair amount of argument about WHY the moon looks bigger > when it just rises. It isn't bigger. It does look like it is, though. Is > it the effect of the atmosphere's operation as a lens? Is it comparison > with terrestrial objects? What I think that proves is that our senses are > pretty unreliable. You know, the image on the retina is upside down to > what we see. So you believe everything your eyes (seem to) tell you? come > on. I think we see what we think we ought to see. > > Hope this gives you something tangible to work with. > > On 11/9/11 8:26 PM, lug-request at leica-users.org wrote: >> Message: 31 >> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 17:40:13 -0800 >> From: Richard Man<richard at richardmanphoto.com> >> Subject: [Leica] Any pointers on taking full moon photos? >> To: Leica Users Group<lug at leica-users.org> >> Message-ID: >> <CAF8hL-G_PzwyevZ70erGdF81Uj=jijab_P-Pt2EZtGV=2O2QtQ at >> mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> Will be trying to take some fullish moon photos in Yosemite (probably >> Glacial Point?). Any recommendation besides not use a flash and use a >> tripod?:-) >> >> -- // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>