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Subject: [Leica] HUMOUR :-) A photo which costs more than a Cindy Sherman!
From: philippe.amard at sfr.fr (philippe.amard)
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 11:12:16 +0100
References: <CAE47C79.796A%chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com> <45DC3494-5BA5-4685-875D-14D774B15013@frozenlight.eu>

Le 13 nov. 11 ? 07:54, Nathan Wajsman a ?crit :

> Of course, most of the stuff that hangs in the Louvre, Prado etc.,  
> was crassly commercial when it was painted centuries ago--portraits  
> of rich people etc.
>

agreed except that the painters now celebrated were already renown and  
chosen for their unique skills to convey this or that through their  
"advanced" skills.

ph



> Who is to say that, say, Apple's 1984 Superbowl commercial will not  
> be Fine Art 100 years from now?
>
> Cheers,
> Nathan
>
> Nathan Wajsman
> Alicante, Spain
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>
>
> YNWA
>
>
>
> On Nov 13, 2011, at 1:44 AM, Chris Crawford wrote:
>
>> The term Fine Art is not an indicator of quality, but of type. It
>> distinguishes art that typically hangs in galleries and museums from
>> Commercial Art, which means things like advertising design, logo  
>> design,
>> book layout, illustration, sign painting, etc. There's some  
>> overlap, as
>> some commercial art gets recognized by the fine art world of  
>> galleries and
>> museums.
>>
>> The painter you talked to was an uneducated fool. Photography has  
>> been
>> recognized as art for a century now, and is part of the collections  
>> of all
>> of the world's great art museums.
>>
>> -- 
>> Chris Crawford
>> Fine Art Photography
>> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>> 260-437-8990
>>
>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>> On 11/12/11 7:13 PM, "Ken Carney" <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I always meant to look up "fine art" photography.  Is there an  
>>> "average
>>> art" or a "bad art"?  There must be only one category since that's  
>>> all I
>>> ever see.  Now that I think of it, what causes a photo to cross  
>>> over the
>>> line into "art"?  Just wondering.  If I knew I could add that to  
>>> my new
>>> LUG tools of print 8' wide and only editions of six.
>>>
>>> Ken
>>> Who had his tail roasted by a painter when he referred to a  
>>> photograph
>>> as art, although even there I never received an explanation,  
>>> although
>>> the lady agreed there were other forms of art, such as sculpture.  I
>>> thought it best not to get into other fringe areas such as covering
>>> buildings in Saran wrap.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/12/2011 4:57 PM, tedgrant at shaw.ca wrote:
>>>> Hi Crew,
>>>> In my hundreds of pages of saved anecdotes and humours photo  
>>>> notes I
>>>> just came across this one and thought it rather fitting regarding  
>>>> the
>>>> topic! :-)
>>>> =================
>>>>
>>>> Photographer as artist!
>>>>
>>>> ==================
>>>>
>>>> An art photographer asked the gallery owner if there had been any
>>>> interest
>>>>
>>>> in his photographs on display at that time. "I have good news and  
>>>> bad
>>>>
>>>> news," the owner replied.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "The good news is that a gentleman inquired about your work and
>>>> wondered if
>>>>
>>>> it would appreciate in value after your death."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "When I told him it would, he bought all 15 of your photographs."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "That's wonderful," the artist exclaimed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "What's the bad news?"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "The guy was your doctor..."
>>>>
>>>> ======================
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well OK eh? It's Saturday afternoon com'on crew, smile or  
>>>> laugh! :-)
>>>> OK OK kinda sick hunour, so big deal! Get over it! If you have a
>>>> problem go pour a fine single malt, sit back then laugh! :-) :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Dr. ted  :-)
>>>>
>>>>
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