Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/12/07
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Mine comes in, but the links in the first line are gone ... ph Le 7 d?c. 11 ? 19:53, Jim Nichols a ?crit : > Bryan, > > I was one of those whose mail was blocked, by Carrierzone, though I > can't say whether they use the van Riel filter. Carrierzone > furnishes spam blocking for my local ISP. After two emails failed > to get results, and they refused to talk with Brian Reid, I worked > through my ISP, who worked with techies further up the line, and, > after five days, my mail is coming through once again. > > I hope it continues to work properly. > > Jim Nichols > Tullahoma, TN USA > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Willman" <bryanwi at bryanwi.com > > > To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 12:43 PM > Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG mail being blocked by bad ISPs, some people > auto-unsubscribed > > >> I wonder if such behavoir (by van Riel) constitutes defamation, and >> if litigation (or the threat thereof) might be of use. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: lug-bounces+bryanwi=bryanwi.com at leica-users.org >> [mailto:lug-bounces+bryanwi=bryanwi.com at leica-users.org >> ] On Behalf Of Brian Reid >> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 4:07 PM >> To: lug at leica-users.org >> Subject: [Leica] LUG mail being blocked by bad ISPs, some people >> auto-unsubscribed >> >> A bunch of LUG subscribers have been auto-unsubscribed because of a >> lazy >> ideologue in Merrimack New Hampshire named Rik van Riel. Rik >> believes that he >> has the only solution to the spam detection problem, and >> unfortunately a few >> ISPs believe him. Responsible ISPs use dozens upon dozens of >> factors to >> classify something as spam. Since van Riel doesn't charge for his >> spam-finding >> service, cheapo ISPs will sometimes use it and only it. When van >> Riel's spam >> detectors make a mistake (which he, of course, believes is not >> possible) then >> mail stops getting delivered to the customers of the ISPs that >> depend on his >> free service. >> >> If you are one of the people whose LUG subscription went away, you >> can think >> bad thoughts about Rik van Riel. Ideologues like him rarely change >> their >> position as a result of argument from other people, so there is no >> point >> trying to yell at him or reason with him. In a certain sense the >> real villains >> are the owners of the ISPs that are too cheap to buy real commercial >> spam-blocking service, which requires human participation and is >> therefore not >> free. >> >> The only viable long-term solution to false-positive spam >> nightmares is to >> find a responsible ISP. Cheapo ISPs are going to use cheapo spam- >> control >> companies, who invariably lock onto free services run by ideologues. >> >> If you are one of the victims, you of course aren't getting this >> email, but >> you might see it on the website or you might get a copy forwarded >> from a >> friend. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information