Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/12/14
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]thanks much Jay Sent from my iPhone Steve Barbour On Dec 13, 2011, at 8:33 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> wrote: Steve, Yes. The AF-S Nikkor 24-120 f4G ED VR, to give it its catalogue monicker, is a soft lens with quite a bit of distortion at both ends. I bought it on specs without trying it out, which I normally never do, which was an unforced error if ever there was one. It is a lens that gives convenience at the cost of optical quality, a bad trade off. IMHO, the older one (AF-S 24-85 f3.5-4.5G) is lighter, more compact, less expensive and better performing, albeit in a narrower zoom range. Both have AFS, and 'G' type lenses, but the older lens does not have VR, which I have not found to be a material disadvantage in this zoom range. It is going to stay on my D700 as my walk around, standard zoom lens. Cheers Jayanand On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>wrote: > > On Dec 13, 2011, at 7:56 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote: > >> Mark, >> I find the old 24-85 f3.5 - 4.5G lens to be superior in every way. Buying >> the latest version of the 24-120 (the f4 one) > > > is this the identical VR lens that Mark speaks of? > > Steve > > >> was a big mistake - I am >> going to advertise and sell it this weekend. >> Cheers >> Jayanand >> >> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com >> wrote: >> >>> I check B&H and find that they sell a "kit" Nikon D700 SLR Digital > Camera >>> Kit with 24-120mm VR Lens for $3,996.90 (and you'd think you'd have to > pay >>> Four Grand for such a combo) >>> This is a lens I'd kill for. The pix I'd do with one would take no >>> prisoners. I'd never sleep. >>> The lens itself cost thirteen hundred bucks and uses a 77mm filter. >>> Not real Leica like. But will do in the interim. >>> >>> And faster than a measly 700 millions miles an hour too. >>> If that's as fast as I could ever go I'd get a tune up! >>> >>> -- >>> Mark R. >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/onthisAutumnday/ >>> >>> >>>> From: Mark William Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:05:07 -0500 >>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] High Rez Bergdorf's window >>>> >>>> Mine too. >>>> -- >>>> Mark R. >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/onthisAutumnday/ >>>> >>>> >>>>> From: Gene duprey <grduprey at mchsi.com> >>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:23:20 -0600 (CST) >>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] High Rez Bergdorf's window >>>>> >>>>> My D700 was lens free (No lens) >>>> >>>> Gene >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: >>>>> "philippe.amard" <philippe.amard at sfr.fr> >>>> To: "Leica Users Group" >>>>> <lug at leica-users.org> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 12:32:09 AM GMT -06:00 >>>>> US/Canada Central >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] High Rez Bergdorf's window >>>> >>>> Le 13 d?c. >>>>> 11 ? 01:36, Mark Rabiner a ?crit : >>>> >>>>> That's a perk on the nikon vs. canon >>>>> lenses. Their kit glass really >>>>> has >>>>> great specs. As long as you don't >>>>> bang them going through a door out >>>>> of >>>>> whack. They look embarrassing but >>>>> they make very good images. Though >>>>> I've >>>>> not used one in over a year >>>>> there is not kit glass for full frame. >>>> >>>> I bought my D700 with the infamous >>>>> -free- 24-10 ; package by Nikon, Mark >>>> different markets I guess >>>> Philippe >>>> >>>> >>>>> I >>>>> was shooting this thing on P so it was wide open which was 5.6 at >>>>> 20mm >>>>> >>>>> which means everything front to back is sharp as hell. I could not >>>>> even >>>>> >>>>> believe it. That's also an advantage to shooting cropped. Its ten >>>>> times >>>>> >>>>> harder for me to get it all with my 24-85 full frame glass which in >>>>> >>>>> comparison weights a ton. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Mark R. >>>>> >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> From: Jim Nichols >>>>> <jhnichols at lighttube.net> >>>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group >>>>> <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>>> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:52:05 -0600 >>>>>> To: Leica >>>>> Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] High Rez Bergdorf's >>>>> window >>>>>> >>>>>> Very nicely captured, Mark. Nice to find a gem among the bargain >>>>> >>>>>> lenses. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jim Nichols >>>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA >>>>>> ----- Original Message >>>>> ----- >>>>>> From: "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com> >>>>>> To: "Leica Users >>>>> Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 12:01 PM >>>>>> >>>>> Subject: [Leica] High Rez Bergdorf's window >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I was going over >>>>> window's I'd shot Dec 12 2008 at Bergdorf's that >>>>>>> night and >>>>>>> was >>>>> amazed by the detail and high quality so I checked the >>>>>>> metadata to >>>>> see >>>>>>> which of my real money Nikon glass I'd shot it with. The 28 1.4 or >>>>> >>>>>>> perhaps >>>>>>> 14 2.8. >>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/c4bmnog >>>>>>> It turned out the >>>>> be the lowly 99 dollar special 18.0-55.0 mm f/ >>>>>>> 3.5-5.6 DX >>>>>>> non VR >>>>> which you get when you click the sort for cheaper at top >>>>>>> bottom on >>>>>>> >>>>> the Adorama or B&H sites. Maybe Calumet. >>>>>>> So I left it at a much higher >>>>> rez than 1200 pixels on the long >>>>>>> end so you >>>>>>> can really see it when >>>>> you click the zoom in button on the LUG >>>>>>> gallery. >>>>>>> The iso was 400 so >>>>> there really was a lot of light in these >>>>>>> window. And it >>>>>>> makes for >>>>> some real quality images. >>>>>>> The windows at Bergdorf's which are the best >>>>> I've ever seen >>>>>>> anywhere have >>>>>>> not been as good the past three of >>>>> years. 09 and 10 and '11. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Mark R. >>>>>>> >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See >>>>> http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See >>>>> http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See >>>>> http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users >>>>> Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users >>>>> Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. 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