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Subject: [Leica] photoshop-vs-lightroom
From: j2m46 at hotmail.fr (Jean-Michel Mertz)
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 19:47:15 +0100
References: <CB1E60C9.182B4%mark@rabinergroup.com>, <967854C2-F347-4295-A662-1D009F1FE068@frozenlight.eu>

I can only agree with you, Nathan, LR, which I use, is a tool and should be 
considered as such, as a tool, the object of my interest being picture 
taking. No LR will ever be able to improve what I have not succeeded in 
translating from the real world. Granted, there are adjustments to be made 
but I believe it is image making that is the stuff we are working on. I'm 
sometimes under the impression that LR or PS tend to replace the 
photographer! Jean-Michel > From: photo at frozenlight.eu
> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 06:44:43 +0100
> To: lug at leica-users.org
> Subject: Re: [Leica] photoshop-vs-lightroom
> 
> I guess then I am a low-level point-and-shooter, because I am perfectly 
> happy with the adjustments I make in LR: converting from RAW, cropping, 
> spotting if needed, levels, saturation, contrast, sharpening if needed, 
> conversion to B&W with superb tone controls. I am not a Photoshop artist 
> but a photographer. I am quite happy to restrict myself to the adjustments 
> that correspond to what I used to do in the darkroom, and this is where LR 
> shines. All that stuff with layers and liquify filters and I don't know 
> what is totally unnecessary for me.
> 
> The only of the above mentioned activities at which Photoshop is better 
> than Lightroom is spotting. For that reason, I still have PS CS 3 which I 
> use on my film scans, since they invariably need a lot more spotting than 
> digital images.
> 
> Cheers,
> Nathan
> 
> Nathan Wajsman
> Alicante, Spain
> http://www.frozenlight.eu
> http://www.greatpix.eu
> http://www.nathanfoto.com
> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
> 
> 
> YNWA
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 26, 2011, at 11:35 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
> 
> > People who do this - Use Photoshop for many of their images after getting
> > them in Lightroom or whatever I have no issue with. I think that should 
> > be
> > clear by now. No problem of course with Tina's or Georges workflows.
> > I do have a bit of a problem with the idea that Lightroom is all you need
> > after you buy your camera to digitally deal with your pix.
> > Unless we are dealing with the whole thing on a pretty low level like 
> > point
> > and shoot users.
> > And I'd hope people with Leica sensibilities are not dealing on that low 
> > of
> > a level.  3 or 4 grand for a lens why not make a commitment to the
> > photograph you make with it?
> > 
> > -- 
> > Mark R.
> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >> Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 12:47:01 -0800
> >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] photoshop-vs-lightroom
> >> 
> >> Hi Mark, yes, ACR has exactly the same engine as the develop module as
> >> Lightroom. I think I mentioned it a few times.
> >> 
> >> My typical workflow is to use LR to catalog and browse the images, do 
> >> most
> >> of the processing work in LR, and use PS5 for certain images. I have a
> >> couple killer plugin from George DeWolfe that runs under PS5 only and 
> >> most
> >> of my "final" images go through them.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
> >> 
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