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Subject: [Leica] DNG/Lightroom Question
From: richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 00:26:54 -0800
References: <A0F95470-60B7-4852-A2ED-F8557E043668@me.com> <CB315F9F.B4F3%chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com>

Same with LR, hence I am a bit confused by Gerry's questions :-)

On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 12:24 AM, Chris Crawford <
chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote:

> I wonder of us CS5 users will get an update to that 2012 profile? Hope so!
> In Photoshop you can actually switch back and forth between the profiles.
> There's a pull-down menu buried deep in the Camera Raw controls that
> allows you to choose. So, updating to a newer one does not take away the
> ability to use the old one if you need it for something.
>
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> On 1/10/12 3:22 AM, "Gerry Walden" <gwpics at me.com> wrote:
>
> >I had forgotten that you can upgrade the camera calibration profile in
> >LR, and I notice in the new LR4 Beta there is now a 2012 profile, which
> >seems to answer my question. Thanks Chris!
> >
> >Gerry
> >
> >Gerry Walden LRPS
> >+44 (0)23 8046 3076 (Office)
> >+44 (0)797 287 7932 (Mobile)
> >Web: www.gwpics.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On 10 Jan 2012, at 08:19, Chris Crawford wrote:
> >
> >> Don't know about Lightroom, but in Photoshop CS5, the raw converter
> >>allows
> >> you to choose between the 2010 profile or the 2003 profile! So you could
> >> still open stuff with the old profile system in later versions of
> >> Photoshop.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Chris Crawford
> >> Fine Art Photography
> >> Fort Wayne, Indiana
> >> 260-437-8990
> >>
> >> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio
> >>
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> >>
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> >>
> >> On 1/10/12 2:35 AM, "Gerry Walden" <gwpics at me.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Richard
> >>>
> >>> That is my point. They upgrade to a new 2010 profile, but if a .dng
> >>> conversion was done way back then there a similar upgrade to a new .dng
> >>> version or is it stuck at the old level/values?
> >>>
> >>> Gerry
> >>>
> >>> Gerry Walden LRPS
> >>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 (Office)
> >>> +44 (0)797 287 7932 (Mobile)
> >>> Web: www.gwpics.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 10 Jan 2012, at 07:32, Richard Man wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> The preset may be different, and may be it's set up to be (for
> >>>>example)
> >>>> more contrast to begin.
> >>>>
> >>>> "Camera Calibration" would also definitely make a difference. The
> >>>>latest
> >>>> "2010" Process probably looks better than the "2003" Process, and the
> >>>> "Adobe Standard" profile is probably better than the "Embedded"
> >>>>profile.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Gerry Walden <gwpics at me.com> 
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Possibly (hopefully) they are Richard, but I think that Adobe
> >>>>>improves
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> 'translation' of native RAW files as time goes on. Maybe I am wrong,
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> someone will put me right on this.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gerry
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gerry Walden LRPS
> >>>>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 (Office)
> >>>>> +44 (0)797 287 7932 (Mobile)
> >>>>> Web: www.gwpics.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 10 Jan 2012, at 07:08, Richard Man wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> You sure it's not just that your skills are better now than in 2006?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Gerry Walden <gwpics at me.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I am working on older images (2006) in Lightroom, and I am finding
> >>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>> they are a lot better than when I worked on them back then. They
> >>>>>>>are
> >>>>> .raf
> >>>>>>> files from a Fuji S2, and I think they have been improved as Adobe
> >>>>>>> has
> >>>>>>> updated the way it reads the files.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Now for the question - if files are converted to .dng files is that
> >>>>>>> conversion then 'set in stone' or is the conversion updated as
> >>>>>>>Adobe
> >>>>>>> improves its translation of the files?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks, as I am sure someone here knows the answer.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Gerry
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Gerry Walden LRPS
> >>>>>>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 (Office)
> >>>>>>> +44 (0)797 287 7932 (Mobile)
> >>>>>>> Web: www.gwpics.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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