Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/01/23

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Subject: [Leica] Help with Nocti
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:53:09 -0500

Your own pix.

-- 
Mark R.
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/


> From: John Collier <jbcollier at shaw.ca>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 14:13:14 -0700
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Help with Nocti
> 
> You want me to have someone photograph me taking pictures so I can prove 
> that
> I photograph closer than 1 m? Perhaps a tape measure in the photo as well? 
> Do
> they also have to be using a Leica camera?
> 
> :-)
> 
> John
> 
> On 2012-01-23, at 7:41 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
> 
>> I think seeing your pix John would clarify everything.
>> I think old days of the LUG are over with writing about cameras and no 
>> beef.
>> Our beef is all on the internet now in galleries and websites.
>> Its easy to see why someone wants to use a tele over a wide or needs fast
>> lenses or macros when you just look at their pix.
>> -- 
>> Mark R.
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/
>> 
>> 
>>> From: John Collier <jbcollier at shaw.ca>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 07:12:34 -0700
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Help with Nocti
>>> 
>>> Hi Mark,
>>> 
>>> If I'd known this was going to upset you so much, I wouldn't have said
>>> anything at all. If you look at what I wrote, you'll find I replaced the
>>> Noctilux (50) with a Summilux (50). I mentioned the Summilux (75) to show
>>> that
>>> it wash't the narrow depth of field that put me off. I very seldom shoot
>>> with
>>> a tele. I either have a 35 or 50 Summilux mounted 90% of the time.
>>> 
>>> As to the why I bought the Noctilux, I shoot wide open a lot of the time 
>>> so
>>> when a Noctilux came available locally, it seemed natural to try one out.
>>> However, it was my first normal/wide lens that only focused to 1.0 m. I 
>>> use
>>> the M camera because it is one of the few cameras that doesn't get in the
>>> way
>>> of what I see. It's just a plain glass window to the world. Up until I
>>> bought
>>> the Noctilux, I never gave the 0.7 m close focus limit a single thought. 
>>> The
>>> camera just worked. After I got the Noctilux I found myself, after 
>>> framing
>>> my
>>> shot normally, frequently having to back up. Not all the time but often
>>> enough
>>> that I noticed. I don't want to notice my camera. I want it to 
>>> disappear. I
>>> sold the lens.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2012-01-22, at 7:08 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>>> 
>>>> One expects to see a portfolio in which the work revolves around 2 to 3
>>>> foot
>>>> macro shots.  Is there a URL?
>>>> The issue to me is not why one SELLS a Noctilux because it won't focus 
>>>> to
>>>> .7
>>>> of a meter but why one BOUGHT one in the first place.
>>>> I should think the portfolio of a Noctilux user would revolve around a
>>>> whole
>>>> lot of low light shooting.
>>>> Low light and close both?  Not that's a bit original!
>>>> I'm not sure how many low light shooters are also close in shooters. It
>>>> seems to me the ultra low light macro field remains wide open.
>>>> You are not using a  75 Summilux to shoot what? Where?
>>>> I don't see how a short tele replaces a normal focal lengh lens
>>>> Id have thought a normal would replace a normal.
>>>> 
>>>> A normal which can feel wide when it needs to or tele with some inspired
>>>> use. A 75mm lens is never going to feel wide. And I'd hate be the only 
>>>> lens
>>>> on my camera.. If my main lens was not a normal it would be a wide.
>>> 
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