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Subject: [Leica] Help with Nocti
From: rgacpa at gmail.com (Robert Adler)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 19:13:18 -0800
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Not forgetting that your images are stunning and inspirational!

On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at 
gmail.com>wrote:

>
> On Jan 25, 2012, at 3:16 PM, Henning Wulff wrote:
>
> > Many years ago, I was a nerd. Very recently, I was a nerd. Actually, I
> still am.
> >
> > I loved anything to do with physics from early on, certainly by the time
> I was 5 and got my first mechano (Marklin) construction set. Later I did a
> lot of electronics, mechanics, and chemistry also when it had to do with
> rockets.
> >
> > In University I studied physics and math and got some degrees in them.
> All the optics courses I could accommodate were included.
> >
> > My artistic side had a shot with painting, sculpture and photography,
> which I started with a 6x9 folder at 7 and darkroom work shortly after.
> Later I also became an architect.
> >
> > I love photos and photography, but I always wonder 'why' and 'how', just
> as I do in architecture or other things.
> >
> > When I get new equipment, I go out and shoot anything that doesn't run
> away fast enough, but I also try to find out what is special about every
> piece of equipment; what are its strong and weak points so that I know when
> to take it with me and when to leave it, depending on what I'm going out to
> shoot and how I'm feeling about my proposed subjects. When I photograph, I
> like surprises, but even more I like knowing beforehand what 'surprising'
> thing I can produce with certain equipment under certain circumstances. The
> 'oh, rats!' type of surprises I like a lot less.
> >
> > So I try out equipment, and when I feel I understand it reasonably well,
> I can feel confident when taking it out shooting. All the little techie
> bits I've learned about the equipment, the lenses, lets me use those
> aberrations which might otherwise spoil a picture to my advantage.
> >
> > Very often it's not necessary to know all the techie bits, but it's
> better to know them and be able to put them aside than not understand why a
> photo got screwed up.
>
>
> that's why I always read your comments Henning, you understand the nerd at
> the service of the artist, so you say it, and you show it very well,
>
>
> Steve
>
>
> > Henning
> >
> >
> > On 2012-01-25, at 9:57 AM, Steve Barbour wrote:
> >
> >> On Jan 25, 2012, at 9:40 AM, <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >> Marty Deveney OFFERED:
> >>
> >>>> None of this matters if you don't care, or don't see the abberrations
> >>> or don't know what the results of the aberrations look like.  I see
> >>> them because I look for them and have gone out of my way to learn what
> >>> various aberrations look like in a print.  Some of them produce
> >>> effects I like, some I live with, some I only notice if I go looking
> >>> for them.<<<<<
> >>
> >> Hi Marty and others,
> >> This series of posts about the many good, bad and uglies of the
> Noctilux f 1.0 for me has been very enlightening!
> >>
> >> I'm not being a smart ass with that comment, simply because once again
> the LUG has become a most interesting learning tool. WHY?
> >>
> >> Well all the things technical pointed out against or within the lens
> are items I never knew were there, nor do I understand the technical
> meanings of many of the word descriptions. Nor what to look for? I don't
> think that means I'm stupid or don't care. It is interesting.
> >>
> >> But because I never knew about it, nor do I look for many of the things
> you lads have pointed out. I'm quite surprised someone hasn't looked at my
> Noctilux exposed photographs, many printed as 16X20 exhibition prints in
> trays. And said something along the lines you lads are talking about and
> are describing?
> >>
> >> Me? It's the same old story..... "I'm a photographer first and
> foremost!" A techie second or wherever it fell during my hundreds of
> assignments. The one thing I have always strived for, are the feelings of
> myself when I've been lucky and have a nice moment captured on film, or
> these days digital and it printed well and looked cool on occasion. :-)
> >>
> >> And once in awhile a viewer makes a nice compliment about my abilities
> with a camera. Not often, once in awhile is nice! ;-)
> >>
> >> I suppose if one doesn't know about all of the negative aspects
> explained, then the negative aspects do no harm to your photographs,
> because you look only at the "CONTENT!" And because that has always been my
> motto, what I've shot for and the end result looking as smashing as
> possible, I'll keep what has been said in some dusty old corner of my mind.
> But really not pay any attention to them and carry on shooting as I've done
> for 61 years. Content first and foremost!
> >>
> >> Thanks everyone for broadening my understandings about lenses.
> >> cheers,
> >> Dr. ted
> >>
> >> Totally understand and agree Ted. And I certainly comprehend the tech
> stuff, it's only a question of.. Is it of primary importance and worth the
> effort?
> >> re the endless techie comments, it brings to mind one of my favorite
> observations...
> >> if you can't do, teach...if you can't teach, teach gym...
> >>
> >> s
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
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> >>
> >
> >
> > Henning Wulff
> > henningw at archiphoto.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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-- 
Bob Adler
Palo Alto, CA
http://www.rgaphoto.com


In reply to: Message from mark at whitedogs.co.uk (Mark Pope) ([Leica] Help with Nocti)
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