Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/02/09

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Subject: [Leica] Nocti/0.95 is so 2009. How about a 2 LBS T0.95?
From: rgacpa at gmail.com (Robert Adler)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 06:52:22 -0800
References: <CAF8hL-HzJtqvN4NcSDZm3OWC4muPktx+hqXYVrm4NxFjfOeDoA@mail.gmail.com> <87E9ACCC-43A1-49B9-8DEE-9BEF85802742@gmail.com> <80F9701439F20347874CE5E4E03C22E93DEAFC4E@WHIZZMAIL02.whizz.org> <CA+=0raDXigWgWoiO3=o_Ca9yytFuC8bZ=4n=Le83aBeBXSkLYQ@mail.gmail.com> <000001cce6e4$8e4b1900$aae14b00$@chiaroscuro.co.nz> <027a01cce6e9$a10ca270$e325e750$@earthlink.net> <AB84C0F1-CF26-4C41-98A7-544CB8D1EA3E@shaw.ca> <028f01cce6ed$1483a070$3d8ae150$@earthlink.net> <CAAsXt4Ob14NwyPU0fDTV9ONe3Un+5m1cNC9SeaCVUOL5ZavmDA@mail.gmail.com> <20AA8077-EF01-4F23-872D-297392EACD21@gmail.com>

Interestingly enough, it's one of the least expensive I've seen! And it's
getting CLA'd in NJ, coded and calibrated to the M9 at no cost to me. So it
was IMO, the price that had to be paid, albeit at the lower end of today's
market.

OK. Kimono closed; you can open your eyes now!
Bob

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at 
gmail.com>wrote:

>
> On Feb 8, 2012, at 10:37 PM, Robert Adler wrote:
>
> > Well I'll open my Kimono here.
>
>
> oh my Bob, let's see, do I remember how to blush?
>
> > I just bought a use Nocti; last generation before the 0.95. It's being
> > coded and matched to an M9 in NJ. I paid $6,500. There. I said it. I feel
> > better already!
>
> ouch, I should have hung onto both Noctilux I used to own!
>
> > I don't think I would have been willing to fork over $2,300 less for a
> > product with unknown performance and from a manufacturer without a long
> > history of quality. If after a year I hear that it's a better lens than
> the
> > Nocti I bought, fine. I'll kick myself around the block a few times while
> > looking at the images caught over that year.
> > But for quality of lens, I'll talk Leica and put my money where my mouth
> is.
> >
> > And as far as Erwin Putz, he's no god, but he does know lens measurement
> > and has the historical perspective and experience to compare. So I do
> trust
> > his measurements and his opinions drawn from them to a degree. After that
> > it's up to the photographer.
> >
> > The only new lens I bought was the new 21/3.4, in large part based on
> > Erwin's enthusiasm but also based on need (I don't tend to that wide in
> low
> > light), size (an incredibly compact 21) and cost (relative to the 1.4).
> >
> > So all things being pretty equal (this lens vs the Noctilux) I'll give
> > Leica a big benefit of doubt on their lens quality.
> > Just my opinion, since I have nothing else to do until my kit arrives...
> > :'-(
>
> soon...you'll love it , I know you will, can't wait to see the results...
>
>
> Steve
>
>
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Frank Filippone <red735i at earthlink.net
> >wrote:
> >
> >> I stand somewhat corrected......
> >>
> >> What I should have said is:
> >>
> >>> Price is listed as $8350 HKD..... in 4/3 mount.
> >>>
> >>> That is $1076 by today's exchange rate.
> >>>
> >>> US Price is $4288 USD for an M mount.
> >>>
> >>> That is a LOT of HK labor hours for a different mount.......even with
> RF
> >> Coupling.
> >>
> >> Keep in mind the cheapest CV lens has this coupling, and it is the 21/4
> P
> >> Color Skopar M mount at $419 with lens elements......
> >> Hard to justify a $3K up lift in cost because of RF coupling.
> >>
> >> Frank Filippone
> >> Red735i at earthlink.net
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: lug-bounces+red735i=earthlink.net at leica-users.org
> >> [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=earthlink.net at leica-users.org] On Behalf 
> >> Of
> >> John
> >> Collier
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:27 PM
> >> To: Leica Users Group
> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Nocti/0.95 is so 2009. How about a 2 LBS T0.95?
> >>
> >> A 4/3 mount wouldn't require coupling to the rangefinder. I would assume
> >> that the M mount version is coupled.
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >> On 2012-02-08, at 10:13 PM, Frank Filippone wrote:
> >>
> >>> Price is listed as $8350 HKD..... in 4/3 mount.
> >>>
> >>> That is $1076 by today's exchange rate.
> >>>
> >>> US Price is $4288 USD for an M mount.
> >>>
> >>> That is a LOT of HK labor hours for a different mount.......
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bob Adler
> > Palo Alto, CA
> > http://www.rgaphoto.com
> >
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-- 
Bob Adler
Palo Alto, CA
http://www.rgaphoto.com


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