Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/03/08
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I recently spent time with John Sexton. He is incredibly fastidious about his printing and prints. To make the final print, he will print in many exposures etc on different sheets, then tear up the images and 'paste' them on a perspex board peeling away the options under 'viewing' lights till the combination is 'perfect'. Then the final print is 'orchestrated' from this 'paste up' I am far too 'cheap' to use so much paper!!!! The end mock up does look a bit like that article. Fantastic stuff. I have certainly be using LR to paint in local adjustments for some time similar to those made in the darkroom. Cheers Alastair > I'm waiting for some real darkroom wizard like Marty and Alastair to speak > up, but I have this book by Steve Macleod > http://www.amazon.com/Master-Printers-Workbook-Professional-Technique/dp/2880467330 > > that he shows how he marks up the photos, presumably also after he has > perfected it. I understand that printers do that so they know how to print > the photo later, at least to get a reasonable starting point. May be Pablo > Iniro is a bit "too much details" but the general idea seems to be good. > > On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Richard Man > <richard at richardmanphoto.com>wrote: > >> I would assume that the notes are written after the different >> manipulations are perfected. Certainly I have seen a lot of such markups >> from other master printers. >> On Mar 7, 2012 9:07 PM, "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: >> >>> I cant figure out if this is an example of a kind of obsesive >>> compulsive >>> psychosis or an attempt at humor. There is also a famous one of a head >>> from >>> Avedon. An image marked up way past any reason or comprehension. >>> I'll tell you what I think it is its drugs in the 80's. >>> But it might be Public relations. Your clients are supposed to think >>> that >>> even though you yourself are not making the prints the relation >>> between >>> you >>> and your assistant or printer is so involved that its worth all the >>> ridiculous money they are paying you for the job and or print. >>> >>> In reality when you go through sheets and sheets of paper in the >>> darkroom >>> its a rather organic process of trial and error. And you cant be >>> reminded >>> of >>> it from a mark up or controlled by someone giving you a marked up thing >>> like >>> that. The printer has to sweat it out themselves. Adams called it a >>> performance of a score. But your head is not buried in the score. You >>> have >>> to look up from time to time and cue your orchestra. >>> -- >>> Mark R. >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/ >>> >>> >>> > From: Philippe Amard <philippe.amard at sfr.fr> >>> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> > Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 22:21:14 +0100 >>> > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Magnum & the Dying Art of Darkroom Printing >>> > >>> > Nice document >>> > >>> > OTT: since manipulated comes the latin word for hand, as in handled - >>> > I agree that LR is just on the right track then >>> > >>> > Thanks again >>> > Philippe >>> > >>> > Le 7 mars 12 ? 18:25, Robert Baron a ?crit : >>> > >>> >> If you've never seen a notated print map, look here: >>> >> >>> >> >>> http://theliteratelens.com/2012/02/17/magnum-and-the-dying-art-of-darkroom-pr >>> >> inting/ >>> >> >>> >> If that is necessary to achieve an excellent print from a film >>> >> negative, >>> >> why would it be inappropriate to do similar manipulation to achieve >>> an >>> >> excellent image from a digital negative? Or to put it another way, >>> >> why >>> >> wouldn't it be a necessary part of your work? >>> >> >>> >> --Bob >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Leica Users Group. >>> >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Leica Users Group. >>> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> > > > -- > // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >