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Subject: [Leica] B&W Leica? Higher ISO
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 00:21:21 -0700
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On Mar 16, 2012, at 12:11 AM, Sonny Carter wrote:

> Jay, High ISO did not even come close to being an issue when I bought the
> M9.
> 
> I own several M lenses that I enjoy, that give me great results shooting
> the cats here on the Serengeti plains of Natchitoches.
> 
> I'm happy that you can shoot at dusk in India, and Mark can shoot running
> people in Manhattan.  I really am.
> 
> It doesn't make me cry that I do differently.  I'm not wringing my hands
> over the issue.
> 
> I've not come close to becoming an expert with my M9, but I'm liking every
> moment of it.
> 
> That's the difference.  You and Mark crow about a camera that you have to
> fiddle and futz with and play with twelve menus, that is noisy and heavy
> and the lens mounts the wrong way.  And you have to have the best and the
> fastest, but you know, I don't care what you do.  If that is what you want,
> so be it.
> 
> I'll take pictures, and nod at you, and say, nice camera, all the while
> loving my decision to buy the M9.


amen



> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 12:38 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at 
> gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> No it is not - but it helps a lot. Here is a shot (and the next one)
>> at ISO6400 after sunset in a village:
>> 
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/People/_JGJ0870-EditBW.jpg.html
>> 
>> See it large - the result, given the conditions ( very low light,
>> shooting into a house, etc - if you look, the lights are on inside) is
>> more than acceptable, there is no smearing, the grain is natural and
>> the black and white tones are as good as you can get - in fact, most
>> people who have seen the print cannot believe that it is ISO6400.
>> IMHO, it is indispensable in both my favourite genres of street and
>> wildlife. In the former it allows you to shoot in very low light with
>> impunity, and in the latter it allows for very high shutter speeds to
>> capture action in indifferent light, which is the norm in the dense
>> Indian forests. I just leave my Nikon D700 routinely in Auto ISO mode
>> with an upper limit of 6400, and change the minimum shutter speed
>> depending on the lens/subject.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Jayanand
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:14 AM, John McMaster <john at 
>> chiaroscuro.co.nz>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Obviously there is a place for high ISO (actually high ASA the way we are
>>> talking about it) but it is not the be all and end all in image
>> quality...
>>> 
>>> john
>> 
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> Sonny
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> http://sonc-hegr.tumblr.com/
> Natchitoches, Louisiana
> 
> USA
> 
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In reply to: Message from john at mcmaster.co.nz (John McMaster) ([Leica] B&W Leica? Higher ISO)
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Message from john at chiaroscuro.co.nz (John McMaster) ([Leica] B&W Leica? Higher ISO)
Message from jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj) ([Leica] B&W Leica? Higher ISO)
Message from sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter) ([Leica] B&W Leica? Higher ISO)