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Subject: [Leica] Not yet upgrading to LR4
From: leica_r8 at hotmail.com (Aram Langhans)
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 19:48:57 -0700
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How much faster is your machine than mine?  It sounds like a carbon copy of 
mine.  I7, 16GB, 2TB, but I don't have a dedicated video card yet.

Aram

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From: "Mark Pope" <mark at whitedogs.co.uk>
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 12:54 PM
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: Re: [Leica] Not yet upgrading to LR4

> Hi Aram,
>
> yes I have tried Viewscan and the darned thing still hangs.
> I'll hopefully have time tomorrow or over the weekend to check out the 
> link that Meino posted.  However, I fear it's hardware-related (the 
> viewscan release notes say there can be problems with USB timing on faster 
> machines), so I will either have to bring the XP machine back upstairs and 
> us it for scanning, try using my macbook or just accept that I need to buy 
> a new scanner.
>
>
>
>
>
> Mark Pope,
> Swindon, Wilts
> UK
>
> Homepage               http://www.monomagic.co.uk
> Blog                   http://www.monomagic.co.uk/blog
> Picture a week (2012) 
> http://www.monomagic.co.uk/index.php?gallery=paw/2012
> Picture a week (2010) 
> http://www.monomagic.co.uk/index.php?gallery=paw/2010
> Picture a week (2009) 
> http://www.monomagic.co.uk/index.php?gallery=paw/2009
>                (2008) 
> http://www.monomagic.co.uk/index.php?gallery=paw/2008
>
> On 15/03/2012 14:42, Aram Langhans wrote:
>> Have you tried Viewscan? My old Minolta Scan Dual II works fine with my
>> new i7 machine and Windows 7 64 bit Home version.
>>
>> Aram
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Meino de Graaf" <meino at innerside.demon.nl>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:55 AM
>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Not yet upgrading to LR4
>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> have you tried the procedure described in this thread?
>>> http://www.dyxum.com/dforum/how-to-run-old-minolta-scanners-on-vista-7_topic80321.html
>>>
>>>
>>> regards
>>> Meino
>>>
>>> On 3/14/2012 6:28 PM, Mark Pope wrote:
>>>> Hi Douglas,
>>>>
>>>> that's exactly what I did and it wasn't that expensive. I'm lucky in
>>>> that I have a local store that really care about the systems they 
>>>> build.
>>>> I ended up with a core i7 cpu, 16GB RAM, a 1GB video card and 2TB HDD 
>>>> (I
>>>> subsequently added the 2TB drive from my old XP machine, which holds my
>>>> images).
>>>> I'm running 64-bit Windows 7 professional.
>>>> The speed of the system is limited by the main HDD, but it is quite
>>>> fast. Having read Richard's post, I am tempted to use a faster HDD, but
>>>> it's not a priority at this time.
>>>>
>>>> The only downside is that I can't run my Minolta film scanner.
>>>> Apparently, the USB interface on the scanner has problems with timing
>>>> with faster machines :-(
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mark Pope,
>>>> Swindon, Wilts
>>>> UK
>>>>
>>>> Homepage http://www.monomagic.co.uk
>>>> Blog http://www.monomagic.co.uk/blog
>>>> Picture a week (2012)
>>>> http://www.monomagic.co.uk/index.php?gallery=paw/2012
>>>> Picture a week (2010)
>>>> http://www.monomagic.co.uk/index.php?gallery=paw/2010
>>>> Picture a week (2009)
>>>> http://www.monomagic.co.uk/index.php?gallery=paw/2009
>>>> (2008) http://www.monomagic.co.uk/index.php?gallery=paw/2008
>>>>
>>>> On 14/03/2012 00:14, Douglas Sharp wrote:
>>>>> Thanks again, Richard
>>>>>
>>>>> looks like a custom-built job for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best
>>>>> Douglas
>>>>>
>>>>> On 13.03.2012 22:57, Richard Man wrote:
>>>>>> I would certainly go for a configurable box from someone rather than 
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> name
>>>>>> brand. For us photographers, we really want the fastest CPU, but not
>>>>>> necessarily bazillion cores (e.g. 4 cores at 3 GHz of the same
>>>>>> processor
>>>>>> will be better than 8 cores at 2.66 Ghz - for the SAME processor), 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> mostest memory (8Gb minimum, 16GB is much better and 32GB will get
>>>>>> diminished return) and just a plain decent card and the fastest SATA
>>>>>> drive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For $3000-$4000, in US, I could get i7 @3GHz, may be 8 cores (again 4
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> be fine), at least 16 GB, probably more like 32GB, 2 TB 10,000 RPM
>>>>>> drive
>>>>>> and a decent card easily. So you are good to go.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just a few other drives for continuous backup, but they are cheap.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Douglas Sharp<douglas.sharp at 
>>>>>> gmx.de>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Richard, I'll look into it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or what do you think of these people?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.happyware.de/en/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They're more or less just up the road from me, close to Hamburg - I
>>>>>>> translated some marketing stuff for them recently - and they appear
>>>>>>> offer
>>>>>>> some pretty good custom deals.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe I'll ask them for a quote. I'm thinking of a limit of 2-2.5
>>>>>>> thousand
>>>>>>> euros - so that should get me quite a bit of power and speed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> Douglas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 13.03.2012 21:00, Richard Man wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Doug, get the i7 machine and load it with at least 16 GB. 32 GB if
>>>>>>>> you can
>>>>>>>> afford it. If you can't afford SSD, then get the 10,000 RPM drive.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The video card won't make much difference for Photoshop. Just get a
>>>>>>>> decent
>>>>>>>> one with at least 512MB.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Run Win7 x64 of course.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your quality of life will improve a lot :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Douglas
>>>>>>>> Sharp<douglas.sharp at gmx.de>**
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>>>>>> thanks for the advice - I'm currently looking at Lenovo
>>>>>>>>> Workstations with
>>>>>>>>> lots of number-crunching abilities that can speed up my 
>>>>>>>>> translation
>>>>>>>>> databases and not slow down to a crawl when using Photoshop CS 
>>>>>>>>> (I'm
>>>>>>>>> currently working with 250 MB files of scanned mining maps and it
>>>>>>>>> is S l
>>>>>>>>> o
>>>>>>>>> w! - only 2.4GBs of RAM).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyone heard anything particularly good or bad about Lenovo?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>> Douglas
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 13.03.2012 17:52, Mark Pope wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Doug,
>>>>>>>>>> I would be inclined to install Lightroom3 on the Windows 7 
>>>>>>>>>> machine
>>>>>>>>>> first,
>>>>>>>>>> then migrate your images/catalogue over by exporting it from
>>>>>>>>>> the XP
>>>>>>>>>> machine, then import on the Windows 7 machine. Only when you're
>>>>>>>>>> satisfied
>>>>>>>>>> that everything is working satisfactorily on the Windows 7 
>>>>>>>>>> machine
>>>>>>>>>> would I
>>>>>>>>>> upgrade.
>>>>>>>>>> You may also have to copy any settings you have made in the print
>>>>>>>>>> module,
>>>>>>>>>> for example for any bespoke print sizes, as these aren't part
>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>> catalogue.
>>>>>>>>>> Printer profiles will also need to be installed on the new
>>>>>>>>>> machine.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Have fun!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mark Pope,
>>>>>>>>>> Swindon, Wilts
>>>>>>>>>> UK
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Homepage http://www.monomagic.co.uk
>>>>>>>>>> Blog
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.monomagic.co.uk/****blog<http://www.monomagic.co.uk/**blog>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.monomagic.co.**uk/blog<http://www.monomagic.co.uk/blog>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Picture a week (2010) http://www.monomagic.co.uk/**
>>>>>>>>>> index.php?gallery=paw/2010<htt**p://www.monomagic.co.uk/index.**
>>>>>>>>>> php?gallery=paw/2010<http://www.monomagic.co.uk/index.php?gallery=paw/2010>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Picture a week (2009) http://www.monomagic.co.uk/**
>>>>>>>>>> index.php?gallery=paw/2009<htt**p://www.monomagic.co.uk/index.**
>>>>>>>>>> php?gallery=paw/2009<http://www.monomagic.co.uk/index.php?gallery=paw/2009>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (2008) http://www.monomagic.co.uk/**
>>>>>>>>>> index.php?gallery=paw/2008<htt**p://www.monomagic.co.uk/index.**
>>>>>>>>>> php?gallery=paw/2008<http://www.monomagic.co.uk/index.php?gallery=paw/2008>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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