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Subject: [Leica] Leica M9 ouch. now spite
From: leesonpj at gmail.com (Philip Leeson)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 19:07:53 -0500
References: <CB9BBFAD.1132D%chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com>

Don't be so sure about healthcare either; lots of squeeze there and more to 
come?.

Phil


On Mar 30, 2012, at 6:59 PM, Chris Crawford wrote:

> Phil, that sounds like my alma mater and the crap they tell their art
> students. You know how many of my classmates found a job after graduation?
> Keep in mind that I graduated in 1999. Thirteen years ago. Well after 13
> yrs, only two have jobs. One is a cashier at Walmart, the other is a
> secretary for a realtor. Neither earns enough to live at even the most
> basic level. The one at Walmart is a single mom so she's on welfare, the
> other has no kids so the government won't help her, so she lives with her
> parents. Fifteen of us graduated from the art program at Indiana
> University's Fort Wayne campus that year. TWO have jobs that pay poverty
> wages. Two of us are self-employed artists, and we are both BARELY making
> it. I have my Sonnar for sale because I need the money to make it through
> the next month, because sales have been slow and some commercial work I am
> doing won't pay off till the end of April. The rest of my classmates?
> Unemployed, as they have been for thirteen years. Most places here won't
> even consider an art degree holder, not even to be a cashier....the one I
> know got lucky, if you consider working for $9 an hour lucky.
> 
> Become a nurse, that is where the real money is!
> 
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> 
> On 3/30/12 7:18 PM, "Phil Forrest" <photo.forrest at earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
>> It's also an act of spiteful defiance against myself and my school.
>> They talk a lot of success stories of working in the media (yeah people
>> from decades ago) but lately only 3 people who have graduated in the
>> last 3 years are working in a journalistic capacity. Everyone else is
>> working at or as:
>> Trader Joes, Whole Foods, bartending, hotel concierges, phone call
>> centers, retail sales, et al.
>> 
>> I'm gunning for a career in healthcare probably.
>> 
>> Phil Forrest
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:11:05 -0700
>> Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> If you need the money now to pay for bills. Sell it. You can always
>>> pick it up cheaper later.
>>> 
>>> Bodies do not rise in prices like lens do.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Phil Forrest
>>> <photo.forrest at earthlink.net>wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Breathe deep...
>>>> Ok, I'm putting up for sale my black M9. I can pontificate on the
>>>> status of the media and finding any work in it later but for now I
>>>> need to find a real job.
>>>> 
>>>> I bought it October of 2010.
>>>> Bottom plate has a brassy ring around the edges. There is a small
>>>> impact mark on the bottom plate as well; opposite side of the lock.
>>>> 
>>>> Camera returned from Leica NJ with a new sensor during
>>>> the last week of January 2012. Camera actuations = 8151.
>>>> OEM warranty is still good through October of this year. I can send
>>>> it out to Leica NJ for the CLA + warranty extension if the
>>>> prospective buyer were to pay for it. About an extra $400 USD.
>>>> 
>>>> Viewfinder is very crisp, clear and accurate. The red dot had its
>>>> paint removed and is a nice brushed steel dot now. The M9 white
>>>> paint flaked out the week I bought the camera.
>>>> 
>>>> Camera will come with 2 OEM batteries and 2 aftermarket batteries.
>>>> Charger is the old M8 charger but not to worry, there is also a
>>>> Belkin Dual charger with 2 new Leica M battery adapter plates
>>>> included.
>>>> 
>>>> Other stuff that is included:
>>>> 
>>>> Thumbs-Up CSEP-1.
>>>> Match technical Beep soft release.
>>>> 16GB Transcend Class 10 SDHC card.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm asking $5000 + insured shipping with direct signature
>>>> confirmation. If in the greater Philadelphia area (to include
>>>> Washington DC, Baltimore, and NYC) I can deliver the camera most
>>>> likely. I might consider some partial trades but I really just need
>>>> to make the hard decision and take the money. I still have two
>>>> beautiful film bodies that I can use.
>>>> 
>>>> Hopefully I'm making the right choice. Feel free to weigh in and
>>>> talk me in or out of it. I thank you all and respect your opinions.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Phil Forrest
>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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