Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/04/10
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Nothing cheap about it that I can see. Seems to be built every bit as robust as any other M lens I have. About the only thing I don't like about it is the very narrow mounting ring, which makes it a bit hard to turn to full lock, as it is also right up against the body of the camera. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dante Stella" <dstella1 at ameritech.net> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> Cc: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 7:56:39 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [Leica] The world is awash with M9....... The 28mm Elmarit ASPH is challenged in the corners because it is designed to be a cheap (orig $1,600) compact lens, no? Dante On Apr 10, 2012, at 19:03, Marty Deveney <benedenia at gmail.com> wrote: > The 28 Elmarit 2.8 ASPH appeared to be designed for the M8 not the > Summicron - its performance drops in the corners when used wide open > on a 24x36mm frame as you can see on the MTF chart linked from here: > http://us.leica-camera.com/photography/m_system/lenses/2194.html. The > 28 Summicron is sharp right out to the corners, and has a very flat > field. H. Ball Arche, who used to use a 28 a lot and posted here > prolifically, didn't like the flat field because it made heads in the > corners of the frame look like footballs - he preferred the C-V 28/1.9 > which had greater barrel distortion and a less flat field, but less > apparent distortion of things like heads in the corners. A nice > display of the compromises optical design includes. > > The 35 Summicron ASPH was designed during the film era and in some > ways doesn't perform as well as the 35 Summilux ASPH II with the > floating element, but it's still pretty formidable. On the M8 I > prefer a 28 to a 35, but I think generally I prefer a 28 overall, even > if it is the Nikkor 28mm f1.4 which is actually a ~31mm lens. After > Leica revises the 50 Summicron (now the oldest lens in the M line up > and the only Summicron without aspherical element(s)) the 35 and 90 > ASPH Summicrons are probably next, because they are the oldest. > > Summicron 28 (borrowed, and my, look at that magenta!): > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/freakscene/Freakscene_001/L1002579.jpg.html > Nikkor 28: > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/freakscene/Tsukiji/File0825.jpg.html > > Marty > > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 6:40 AM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> > wrote: >> Where are you coming from Mark? >> Where has it been said that they are lowering quality?? >> Where is it said that they designed an M lens for smaller than 24mm x >> 36mm??? >> >> I am on record here in saying how good the 28mm Summicron is..... >> >> All I am saying, and this backed up by users on this list, is that a 28mm >> lens becomes the equivalent of a 35mm on the M8 and that is a more used >> focal length than 28mm is for FF. >> >> Please read (and understand) what is being said rather than making things >> up. >> >> john >> ________________________________________ >> >> >> It strike me as phantasmagorical baloney that Leica lowered its standards >> on >> edge quality to make the compact Leica 35mm f/2 SUMMICRON-M ASPH ideal for >> the M8 making it less ideal for the M9. By the way the lens is now being >> sold new for just over four grand $. >> I don't think Leica has ever made a lens for a crop camera and has stated >> over and over any lens it ever makes will be fully usable on a film M. >> I don't t think anything is going to get it to settle for less than >> excellent edge quality for its M glass going straight out to a 43.3mm >> image >> crop circle.... >> The 28 Summicron is a gem and at the top of my list for my next Leica >> lens. >> This lowering of quality thing is a LUG myth which I don't think we're >> going >> to find documented elsewise. >> >> >> - - from my iRabs. >> Mark Rabiner >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/ >> >> >>> From: John McMaster <john at chiaroscuro.co.nz> >>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 08:47:45 +1200 >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] The world is awash with M9....... >>> >>> That is more of an M8 staple rather than the 35mm/50mm of the M9..... >>> >>> john >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>> I have seen more 28 Summicron for sale in the last month than last 2 >>> years. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information