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Subject: [Leica] Nikon D800E vs. D800
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 01:26:45 -0400

Mark did you really mean "two different realities?
Yes! Other Mark I did!
Thank you other Mark!

- - from my iRabs.
Mark Rabiner
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/


> From: Mark William Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 01:24:30 -0400
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Nikon D800E vs. D800
> 
> I have found that a computer screen of any type and a piece of paper with
> ink or pigment on it are two different relativities. And where differences
> show up the most are in these very sharpening issues.
> One must learn to gage in ones head the differences between the way things
> look on screen and how it translates to a print.
> Perhaps if you print enough you're doing it automatically and forget you're
> doing it.
> 
> - - from my iRabs.
> Mark Rabiner
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/
> 
> 
>> From: Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 08:52:11 +0530
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Nikon D800E vs. D800
>> 
>> Chris,
>> That only means that you have either not sharpened or not sharpened enough
>> on your Canon prints! The final print should be no different, if proper
>> different amounts of sharpening required are applied.
>> Cheers
>> Jayanand
>> 
>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Chris Crawford <
>> chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> My prints from the 14n still look sharper than those from the DmkII at
>>> small sizes. Once you get bigger than the 10x15inch at 300dpi native size
>>> of the 14n files, then the 5DmkII gives sharper prints due to the higher
>>> actual resolution. I'd like to have a no-AA version of the 5DII, I bet it
>>> would be nice!
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Chris Crawford
>>> Fine Art Photography
>>> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>>> 260-437-8990
>>> 
>>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio
>>> 
>>> http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My latest work!
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 4/22/12 9:23 PM, "Jayanand Govindaraj" <jayanand at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I do not understand how not having to sharpen, or having to sharpen an
>>>> image has any bearing on the final print. Anyone care to elucidate?
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Jayanand
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 6:29 AM, Chris Crawford <
>>>> chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Phil,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I found that to be the case with the old Kodak 14n as well. It also had
>>>>> a
>>>>> fullframe sensor with no antialiasing filter. The files didn't need
>>>>> sharpened during RAW processing, but those from the Canon 5DmkII do.
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Chris Crawford
>>>>> Fine Art Photography
>>>>> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>>>>> 260-437-8990
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My latest work!
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798
>>>>> Become a fan on Facebook
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 4/22/12 8:26 PM, "Phil Forrest" <photo.forrest at earthlink.net> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 20:05:21 -0400
>>>>>> Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Omitting sharpening from your normal workflo in digital is just not
>>>>> an
>>>>>>> option.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Unless you happen to be using a Leica M8 or M9. Sharpening the files
>>>>>> simply isn't necessary.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Phil Forrest
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/philforrest
>>>>>> 
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