Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/05/26
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I HATE "Lifestyle" stock! It's so fake. Tina On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at me.com> wrote: > I just wonder when the agencies will realise the images they are getting > are so staged as to be unreal. > > Gerry > > Gerry Walden > +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or > +44 (0)797 287 7932 > www.gwpics.com > > On 26 May 2012, at 13:07, Tina Manley wrote: > > > I agree 100%, Gerry. I needed the releases to use the photos for > > fund-raising and the people understood that. Since I stay with the > > families for about a week, one release covers hundreds of photos. Of > > course I told them what the release said and what it meant to sign it. > It > > also gave me a way of keeping track of who is who so I can take the > photos > > back to them later. I'm sure Getty would not accept the releases I have > > but that's not a problem because I would never sell through Getty anyway! > > > > I agree the industry requirements are ridiculous but it's only going to > get > > worse in the future! I doubt we'll be able to use any photos featuring > > real people. They will all be computer generated! > > > > Tina > > > > On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at me.com> > wrote: > > > >> Thanks for the pretty full answer > >> > >> Please do not take this in any way as a personal criticism, but you have > >> highlighted a point that I have felt so long about the whole model > release > >> 'thing' which I have felt for a very long time. Most, if not all, > agencies > >> now require releases for any image that shows a person no matter how > >> nebulous. You have a release for the person in a language they do not > >> understand with a signature which means nothing because it is merely a > >> mark. Is there any value to that release at all? > >> > >> As I said, this is not a criticism of you in any way, but more of the > >> industry and the stupidity of its requirements where a release is now > >> required for a crowd scene which may contain several hundred people, and > >> for what. There is virtually no chance that those people would take > action > >> in court for damages, and even less chance that they would win. As > >> photographers we have to pander to the stupidity of their requirements > or > >> they will not use our images. > >> > >> Rant over! > >> > >> Gerry > >> > >> Gerry Walden > >> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or > >> +44 (0)797 287 7932 > >> www.gwpics.com > >> > >> On 25 May 2012, at 22:37, Tina Manley wrote: > >> > >>> Yes, such as they are! I have pocket releases in Spanish sometimes > >> signed > >>> with an X but I have everybody's name. Most adults cannot read and > write > >>> in any language and the ones from the Mosquito Coast speak a variety of > >>> languages. Usually, I find a child in the family who can read and > she/he > >>> writes down all of the names and ages for me and then I can match the > >> names > >>> to the photos. Everybody signs a pocket release and I have them all > >> filed > >>> by year. > >>> > >>> Thanks, Gerry. > >>> > >>> Tina > >>> > >>> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at me.com> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I love the intimacy and simplicity of this image Tina. > >>>> > >>>> As a matter of interest, did you get releases for all this work? > >>>> > >>>> Gerry > >>>> > >>>> Gerry Walden > >>>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or > >>>> +44 (0)797 287 7932 > >>>> www.gwpics.com > >>>> > >>>> On 25 May 2012, at 20:56, Tina Manley wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> PESO: > >>>>> > >>>>> If you hadn't guessed already, I'm scanning slides of Honduran > children > >>>>> (61949) and it's way too hot to work outside today!! > >>>>> > >>>>> Here's one more: > >>>>> > >>>>> http://www.pbase.com/image/143566316 > >>>>> > >>>>> The ones I'm scanning now are a mixture of color negative (Fujicolor > >>>> 800), > >>>>> color slides (Astia or Provia, usually), and B&W negatives (TMax or > >>>> Tri-X). > >>>>> All processed in LR4. > >>>>> > >>>>> C&C greatly appreciated > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Tina Manley, ASMP > >>>>> www.tinamanley.com > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Tina Manley, ASMP > >>> www.tinamanley.com > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leica Users Group. > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Tina Manley, ASMP > > www.tinamanley.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > -- Tina Manley, ASMP www.tinamanley.com