Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/06/28
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]>>>This thing of an image shot vertical and ending up as a horizontal is a >>>thing which does happen a lot to photographers working in the 20th >>>century in 35mm. If not by them then by a picture editor.<<<<<<< Hi guys, I thought I'd throw this in for the "anti-croppers" :-) if their are any? :-) When shooting as a newspaper photographer the City Editor was also the "PHOTO-EDITOR?" It should be, he was the picture butcher "fit it in the space left" after all the type had been set for the page! Quite often we would make a print 4 columns wide as you look at the newspaper page. There was only room for a two column size photo. ERGO? The largest pair of scissor shears you've ever seen by man in the hand of the Picture Butcher and it was snip-snip-snip-snip!!! Perfect right out of the middle or most interesting part of the photo and now it fit the 2 column space perfectly! :-) Sometimes there was only room for a "one column" Yep and he'd snip out a face if the story was about some character and that was it no matter how good you thought the photo was or not! COMPLAIN?????? Not on your life when the guy holding the scissors was bigger in size and the BOSS MAN all in one! We'd get the question very rarely.... "How's it look?" Now you know the only answer is going to be... "Not bad!" Your stomach would nearly hurl, but you hung on and quietly walked away! Hiding your tears behind dark glasses! But what does this have to do whether HCB cropped or not? Who cares? Hell it has become a famous photograph no matter whether it was cropped, torn, bitten, one and only frame or the 33rd! This happens to be 2012! So as I said, "it's considered a famous photograph with a questionable story behind it!" The truth is... "Get over it guys and go take your own puddle jumping photos!" :-) The challenge is?...... GO DO A BETTER ONE! :-) It's been raining nearly every day for months! There's lots of flooding and water puddles all over the place. Shooting them surely beats the hell out of gabbing about something none of us will ever find out the truth in any event!! Go Get Happy Snap Puddle Hoppers" :-) Beats the hell out of gabbing about an old one. ;-) Oh and before anyone offers that I should? Know that, "I don't do rain nor puddles very well!" :-) Thank you! :-) cheers, Dr. ted From: "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica Gallery and the Puddle Jumper I do think they 're talking about two different versions of the same neg which had been printed. And by the way was likely he himself at this point printed it. First he printed it more or less full frame which had the blurry fence in it at the left end of the image. They he moved the enlarger up and was able to crop out the blurry fence and turn it into a vertical instead of horizontal image. This thing of an image shot vertical and ending up as a horizontal is a thing which does happen a lot to photographers working in the 20th century in 35mm. If not by them then by a picture editor. And by the way despite what a thing said yesterday on HCB's mode or working printing full frame black border has never stopped a photo editor from cropping a picture. Many just take the face out no mater who or what is going on. They put their own black border on later if they feel like it. - - from my iRabs. Mark Rabiner http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > From: Philippe Amard <philippe.amard at sfr.fr> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:04:25 +0200 > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica Gallery and the Puddle Jumper > > Lot Notes > Cette photographie est une des deux seules images (l'autre ?tant celle > du Cardinal Pacelli) qu'Henri Cartier-Bresson a, d?s la prise de vue, > d?cid? de recadrer; il la prend l'objectif bloqu? par une palissade > qu'il a imm?diatement supprim?e au premier tirage. Cette photographie > fut tir?e pour la premi?re fois en 1946 par Henri Cartier-Bresson afin > de pr?parer son exposition organis?e en f?vrier 1947 au MoMA de New > York. Le tirage pr?sent? ici a ?t? r?alis? ? New York en 1946; c'est, > avec celui du Scrapbook, l'un des premiers tirages de cette > photographie. > > http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/LotDetailsPrintable.aspx?intObjectID=549419> 4 > > Says it is one of the two photographs he immediately cropped due to > the fence showing in the snap > > maybe some of you saw the various evolutions side by side ??? > > Ph > > > Le 28 juin 12 ? 19:20, George Lottermoser a ?crit : > >> >> On Jun 28, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Richard Taylor wrote: >> >>> Amen. I think the only way to close this would be to show us--who >>> know what we saw--the contact sheet with only one jumper, or the >>> contact sheet with multiple different jumpers. >> >>> On Jun 28, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote: >>> >>>> Well if it didn't exist they shouldn't have put it in the show. >> >> being that you saw this in a "scrapbook" show >> apparently edited by the artist himself >> is it possible >> that you saw a number of versions of the the same frame >> "scrapped into a book" >> (rather than a "contact sheet") >> >> Regards, >> George Lottermoser >> george at imagist.com >> http://www.imagist.com >> http://www.imagist.com/blog >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. 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